Ukraine said it took a Russian position using just drones and ground robots.
Zelenskyy said it was a wartime first, and no Ukrainian infantry was involved.
He said robots have done over 22,000 missions in three months, keeping many soldiers from harm.
Wait, I’m on the side of the robots for this one?
May there be mercy on man and machine for their sins…
So… we got two ways to go. One the robot on robot wars end up wiping us all out by exhausting all or resources and of course killing civilians. Or we take to space and have the robot wars stay on earth. Mars at least I figure. For a few at least.
Or… send the robots to mars to fight…
Yeah, but the resources they want to fight over are on earth… for now. Humans will just have to keeping moving to stay out of the robots way.
Or Geonosis
I think I’ve seen this somewhere ….
Dad said “Mario Kart is a waste of time, son.”
That’s General son to you, Dad.
Robot Wars was a documentary
What an amazing entrée to untold horrors
This is nothing but an amuse-bouche compared to the future I foresee.
One small step for man, one giant warning siren for mankind.
It’s also a pretty big step for man.
Yeah… I really don’t like the changes that the Russian Invasion of Ukraine are making to war.
Cheap Kamikaze drones, unmanned roving gun turrets, etc etc… Removing men on the ground feels like its gonna make it easier to pursue and lust for wars as these technologies continue to advance further and remove the human components.
well said. No boots on the ground doesn’t seem to mean less wars, just more wars with less boots on ground.
Yep.
it doesnt mean less wars.
It just means more innocent/civilian suffering.
What happens when it’s an occupying force? i.e. mainly around civilians.
It’s going to be a special kind of hell.
sudo make the Russians retreat
You are not in the sudoers file, this incident will be reported
Sudo delete the incident report
As always, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
things are going to get really weird
Good intentions and human skulls.
Haha first thing I thought of reading that headline,shit we’re going terminator. Well one day they’ll realize they don’t need us I assume. Just have to blot out the sun to go Matrix…
So many exciting possibilities!!! NGL, I was hoping they’d bring dinosaurs back before the machines killed us. Maybe the Matrix will decide to incorporate them. I can live with that.
You want to live with fucking dinosaurs?? Didn’t you watch that movie?
Yeah. But I was a kid in the 80s so I’m also partial to this scenario:
Lmao, that was before my time. That’s badass.
Looks more like that road is paved with Russian corpses.
Russian soldiers have been recorded surrendering to both aerial drones and ground robots in this war, including by writing messages of surrender that they presented to the operator via the onboard camera and surrendering after notes telling them to do so were dropped by drones.
Surrendering to a machine sounds humiliating but still a better option than going back to the Russian military.
Western Infantry officers will be in shambles if this could be repeated again and again. It has to be tough killing one UGV while quad copters are overhead let alone dozens of them rolling up.
Nah, infantry officers would be over the moon if they didn’t have to throw bodies at fortified positions anymore and could just be tasked with holding the AO that the drones assaulted.
Well, the future looks bright enough. We may work to death in captailist states, but at least robots will fight each other, so no need for soldiers.
robots will fight each other, so no need for soldiers.
Ukrainian remote operators are killing Russian soldiers today.
In another few weeks, a Russian advance will take territory containing Ukrainian operators. At which point, well…
This can fill the void that Battlebots’ cancellation left behind.
Robots will fight each other over the burnt remnants of our homes.
…until one of the warring countries runs out of robots anyway. That’s when the real fun starts!
“Sarah Connorska?”
Sarah Connorshenko!
The age of drone on drone violence will make war more palatable to citizens.
Until the drones start getting used on civilians. Which is absolutely going to happen and soon.
It’s been happening for ages already. What reality do you people live in?
“Whaddya mean, ‘you people’?”
It’s been happening for a good 20 years already. Do you think US drone strikes were all military targets? Do you think both russia and ukraine didn’t absolutely dronefuck multiple population centers? Do you think israel didn’t use drones to carry out its genocides? There are probably tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of dead civilians due to drone strikes already.
You’re not wrong but I was specifically referencing the ground based drones with my comment. Apologies that wasn’t clear.
We should probably secure rights to EMPs for self defense.
I really, honestly hope you are right. Sadly, I think you are wrong. I’ve recently been exposed to the concepts of “human safari” and “drone siege” and they aren’t pretty. “Drone on drone” might be just the preamble of these.
No preamble, unfortunately. The Russians are doing these “human safaris”, which are, of course, clear as day war crimes, to train their drone pilots.
Also to terrorize and wear out the civilian population of course, which is the Russian way of war.
AI drones are coming along, but these won’t only be used on other drones or robots, that much we can know already.
Indeed, I meant that in a hypothetical “drone vs drone” war, after the drones win the attacks on civilians and sieges will most likely come after.
might lead to faster extinction via other methods tho…
Would be super interested to see the camera feed from all the drones involved.
How long until inter-country conflicts are settled by robot battles and we’re basically living the plot of Robo Jox?
The thing I fear is that this just becomes a ridiculously futile war of resource attrition. It all comes down to who has more metals and chips and armaments to keep throwing at the other’s pools of the same until one gives up. What a waste…
…But then again, writing this, I realize that’s almost already how they treat human soldiers so…what will change, I wonder?
Exactly. We’re already there with which side has more human resources. Meanwhile asymmetric warfare is an escalation of technology and the resources to produce them. Sure, you can tip the balance of power on the battlefield with very clever use of resources, but it’s ultimately a contest of who is willing to dump the most into the conflict.
It could also be argued that technological warfare in a global economy makes resource blockades even more important. Nobody is 100% reliant on their homeland resources anymore. To effectively siege your opponent, you have to cut off everything that can fuel their ability to make war. That can be a huge perimeter in some cases.
What will change?
It’s easier to convince young people to hump soldiers into their partners than it is to create more rare earth elements.
Possible. It does seem like drones fighting drones should mean less human casualties, which has both a humanitarian side and an escalation risk side.
Then again a lot of people have thought their weapons would make war less deadly, and been very wrong, including the case of WWI-era artillery.
No one will give a shit about robots dying. The drones will either be attempting to war crime civillians or intercept said war crime robots.
And drone intercept rates arent even close to that not being scary.
Yeah, destroying inanimate robots isn’t really going to get your enemy to capitulate. Like shooting Iran’s missiles out of the sky isn’t going to change their plan.
People need to die in warfare for it to matter. Economic and infrastructure targets are really only useful in reaching that goal of killing.
People will give a shit about the robots dying once their side starts running low.
When shit turns into Helm’s Deep, when the robots are taking out the last of your defenses, you’ll give a shit lol.
Think of the drones and robots less like soldiers/planes and more like a thousand points that make up a force field. As that field decays, so does your protection beneath it.
I think you’re overestimating the defensive capabilities we have. Drones has been so successful in warfare specifically because there is no good counter, and numbers can be used to overcome more effective countermeasures.
Helms deep had walls which were impassable before breaching. Drones leak through defenses like a sieve.
Dude, I am not talking about capabilities we have. We’re talking about massive drone-on-drone wars, not today.
So thank you for contributing to some other conversation, but your comment does not exist in the same universe as mine.
That world is here and now. The only futuristic or scifi element is the perfect defense.
They “accidentally” told the drones/robots to attack the schools and hospitals. “We would never do that on purpose”
“Well why were the terrorists using school children as human shields!”
I doubt it will ever stop
This, but also if you aren’t putting your soldiers at risk then war becomes more palatable (and thus more likely). For example, I doubt Trump would have attacked Iran if he had been quoted 1000+ American causalties in the first week.
crazy stuff, now twinks will win wars not 7 feet chuds
I’ve seen some videos about drone operators. They are right next to the front lines, under constant observation by enemy drones, in the range of artillery, getting in and out during the night, spending most time underground. They may not be 7 feet tall but they are still chuds.
Maybe the Ukrainian ones, ours sit in an air conditioned room in the Vegas desert then go to the strip club after their shift
That works for expensive drones, but not so much for the tiny ones that are ubiquitous on front lines.
Different types of drones. Ukraine uses mostly fiber wire drones (earlier WiFi) due to jamming. High altitude drones use some sat links.
Let’s let capitalism intervene until they’re all in a call center in India
The more remote the comms, the higher the ability to interfere. And someone will always have to be close to launch drones with limited range.
That’s not where you get the top progamers nowadays!
