• village604@adultswim.fan
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    7 days ago

    I did the same thing at our local sushi restaurant. For a while I was convinced it was the iced tea.

    Nope, I just randomly became allergic to fish in my 20s.

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    8 days ago

    It’s one of them.

    Flawed assumption. It could be both. You’ll need to eat there at least two more times to find out, assuming each trial yields 100% certainty.

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        8 days ago

        We’ll take them at their word that they’ve truly narrowed the variables to tuna and house sauce (i.e. they’ve eaten a meal consisting of only tuna and house sauce and gotten sick, but everything else they’ve eaten has been properly eliminated, and there are no ways outside of the food truck they could’ve gotten sick), and thus the only logical options are T, HS, or T+HS. The premise of the joke already relies on completely unrealistic simplifying assumptions, so we can too.

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          8 days ago

          They said they ate 8 times and got diarrhea 8 times, the only way to be sure it’s one of them is to eat at least once without those ingredients and not get diarrhea

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            They said they got diarrhea 8 times over 8 bowls, but they never said how many ingredients they used. (Edit: Fuck)

            Assume nine ingredients exist: a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i

            • Bowl 1: a + b + c + d + e + f + g + h + i: Diarrhea
            • Bowl 2: a: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 3: b: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 4: c: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 5: d: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 6: e: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 7: f: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 8: g: No diarrhea
            • Bowl 9: The one the OP is referring to “tomorrow”, which could have h, i, or h + i

            That’s a perfectly feasible if disgusting way to have a bowl from a poke truck if you’re doing it solely for an experiment. And that’s just one setup; there are more convoluted ones you could do that have fewer ingredients but mixed together so your bowls aren’t just one combination. I just chose the counterexample that’s easiest to construct mathematically and which logically uses the fewest steps to eliminate each ingredient.


            Edit: Wait, sorry, I misconstructed this because I misread it even while quoting it. Fuck, if they got diarrhea each time, then yeah, they’ve properly eliminated nothing.

            • TheYojimbo@lemmy.world
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              8 days ago

              Yeah that’s what I meant, 100% diarrhea means they eliminated nothing. Sorry I should have phrased that better.

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                8 days ago

                Oh, no, you phrased it fine; I read 8 bowls and 8 bouts multiple times and somehow still misinterpreted the experiment. It was only after I wrote down and submitted an example setup that I snapped out of my own illiteracy. I realized every possible counterexample was assuming “no diarrhea” trials.

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                  8 days ago

                  If we’re taking them at their word (and not the silly joke it is) technically they could have removed 7 ingredients so far, with only 2 left, while still having diarrhea each time. In that context, say next time they try the dish with only 1 ingredient and the don’t have diarrhea, then they have the likely suspect. They could then try the dish with every ingredient except the suspected allergen to confirm it

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                8 days ago

                100% diarrhea means they eliminated nothing.

                I take exception to this phrasing, whenever i have 100% diarrhea I eliminate the the contents of my guts and a half roll of toilet paper at least.

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      8 days ago

      In fact, they could be allergic to some or all of the ingredients eliminated. Or to the delivery driver’s personal hygiene.

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    On the off chance this isn’t just a joke and never happened, in theory they had to have eaten the exact same dish each time, but requested removal of a single ingredient, and are now down to the last two eliminations?

    The only problem with this method being they’re going in with the assumption that a single ingredient is causing the issue, when it could be multiple or all of the ingredients - or even a result of poor hygiene from the person preparing these pokes.

  • MutantTailThing@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    When I was an alcoholic I diagnosed myself with lactose intolerance. I’d have the Gatling Shits and wonder ‘Hmm was it the 14 tallboy cans of beer last night or the half liter of milk I had for lunch? Must have been the milk.’

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      8 days ago

      I didnt get lactose intolerance until I was in my 30s. So weird that my body just decided “Nah, Im good with dairy products” all on it’s own.

      Really wish I would have discovered that earlier in life, before I developed my crippling cocoa pebbles addiction.

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        So weird that my body just decided “Nah, Im good with dairy products” all on it’s own.

        That’s actually the normal way your body is supposed to be. Most mammals lose their tolerance a little after they are weaned. Only some portions of humans retained lactase in their guts, generally groups that were pastoralists retained lactase and other groups didn’t. It’s why most east asian don’t have lactose tolerance but Mongolians, some Sub-Saharan Africans, and Europeans do.

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          I’ve read that before, but I guess what strikes me as odd is how it wasn’t until I hit my 30s that I suddenly started shitting my brains out whenever I consumed more than a small glass of milk. I drank a lot of milk growing up…it was pretty much that or water much of the time, and even after I went off to college and stuff I still went through a gallon by myself every 3 or 4 days. Not even just milk but WHOLE milk…I didn’t switch to skim until my 20s when I moved in with my gf and she hated whole milk.

          Anyways, after three decades of no issues whatsoever, and zero change in my habits, suddenly my body decided “NYET! NO MORE!!!” and my ability to properly digest lactose evaporated basically overnight. I didn’t even make the connection until I was traveling and wasn’t drinking any milk on my trip and didn’t have any problems, but then got nearly crippled the next morning after I had a big ol bowl of Captain Crunch before bed the night I got home.

        • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          There’s no way our bodies are “supposed” to be. There’s the way they are and the way they were. Also some brave and dedicated individuals can apparently overcome lactose intolerance through exposure therapy. Basically they eat a bunch of dairy every day for weeks until their gut biome readjusts to digest lactose without all the discomfort. Apparently the gas and bloating are caused by the overgrowth of some bacteria and it just takes some time to find a new equilibrium so you don’t get big blooms every time you eat lactose.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 days ago

      So your lactose intolerant huh? That sucks. I used to wonder what food was causing my rectum to bleed so much, but I’ve diagnosed that it wasn’t something to worry about until my 40s.

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        7 days ago

        Bum bleeding is often resolved by reducing fibre. It happens because of too much traffic through your gut, fibre is nothing but extra traffic, it has no nutrient value

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        8 days ago

        Dealing with bleeding in my 40s after putting it off for a few years, don’t recommend.

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          8 days ago

          Yeah it started for me around 18 or so. I’ve put it off for 18 years now. I’m sure it was a mixture of drinking, dehydration, excessive running, stress and poor diet. For a little while I couldn’t figure out if it was hemmroids from stress/riding a motorcycle and other strains but when I read more into the damages that can be done from long distance running all the time, I think that and diet caused most of it. Excessive alcohol use following that up didn’t help much. I’ve learned that bad choices are my Pokemon, I apparently just have to catch them all before I learn anything

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    7 days ago

    i thought my beer had expired one night because i had a terrible time on the toilet at 4am but i totally forgot i ate an entire wedge of blue cheese earlier

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      7 days ago

      Beer tastes bad when it goes bad, yeast is really good at protecting itself - there’s nothing in beer that anything can eat without oxygen so nothing can reproduce, most things can’t survive the alcohol.

      Beer in commercial places doesn’t have time to go bad they empty multiple kegs a week, a keg typically holds about 100 pints

      My homebrew setup uses kegs that hold about 35 pints and they don’t empty quicker than in a season, some of my beers are on tap for a year or more. Beer life is limited by oxygen penetration and temperature.

      If it’s exposed to air it goes bad in days to weeks depending on temperature but it goes bad by the yeast converting it to vinegar, and that very quickly tastes bad, even very drunk people tip out rather than drink an even slightly oxidised beer

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        I had a beer once that had been put in the freezer and then forgotten about and it did sort of frozen and exploded at the same time. So I got it out of the freezer and put it on the side and it thawed out over the course of the next day but it tasted awful afterwards. It was probably out on the side for 4 or 5 hours before I came home from work, saw that it is now finally defrosted, and put it in the fridge. So that’s a very fat turnaround.

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    8 days ago

    You mean the tuna and the house sauce weren’t the two variables this guy tried isolating first?

    He literally tried removing rice and all the vegetables before thinking “hmm, maybe it’s the tuna or the sauce.”

    What a loon. He deserves every one of those awful shits.

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        8 days ago

        Good science starts from the body of evidence we already know, creates a plausible hypothesis, and then tests that hypothesis to see whether it can be disproven.

        We don’t say “hey, maybe gravity isn’t real so to be unbiased I need to assume it’s not and test every other possibility before determining what keeps making these bricks fall on my head every time I throw them up in the air”

        No need to reinvent the wheel for every experiment.

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          Maybe not the greatest example since we don’t fully understand gravity. ”good" in the sense of being expedient, affordable and conventional. Sometimes approaching unsolved problems without the constraints of prior constructs can lead to better understanding.

          Also, vegetables usually are the culprits anyways.

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            Okay, but they can focus on experiments designed to determine whether gravity is caused by quantum mechanics or relativity or something else. They don’t need to drop bricks on their heads just to prove newtonian physics…

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        7 days ago

        Good science will use previous norms, findings and general trends to provide a more useful starting point tho.

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    8 days ago

    It’s like me trying to figure out which brand of the 12th beer courses me to be sick the day after.

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    7 days ago

    OMG I did the same thing at a local pub. Thinking steak sandwich. Ordered one up. Pretty good! Went home, went to bed. Three hours later - gurgle - glorp - oh shit! The rest of the night it was coming out both ends. Feel fine after some sleep. Forget all about it. Three weeks later, at the same pub. Thinking steak sandwich again. Pretty good! Went home, went to bed. Sure enough, three hours later, lather, rinse, repeat. Feel fine after some sleep. Forget all about it. Three weeks later, go to the same pub. Thinking steak sandwich again, third time’s the charm, right? My face when the pub had a sign up saying it was closed down for health code violations :/ To be fair, it was a good sandwich.

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      7 days ago

      Get checked for hepb if you’re unvaccinated for it. It lingers after exposure. That shit will ruin your liver later if ignored.

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      7 days ago

      That’s basically my experience with salvia in my late teens/early 20s. Enough time would pass where I’d think, “it really couldn’t be as bad as I remember,” and every time I learned that it could be worse than I remembered.

      Also with smoking weed when very drunk.

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    8 days ago

    Somebody needs to learn about a binary search.

    (Assuming that there is exactly one ingredient causing the problem.)

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 days ago

      "How badly do I need to poop? "

      A novel application of Binary Space Partitioning

      Authors: Harry S. Stool, Floe O. Welles, Lavat T. Rushdie

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      8 days ago

      In this case it would be an intolerance, and those you really do have to find on your own, unfortunately. And figuring it out can be extremely difficult.