That sounds safe.
They’ve just doomed every person in a car on every major interstate.
Well, it’s one way to boost sales on the gas-guzzling, rolling tanks the US auto makers refuse to diversify away from.
Solves medical debt by closing hospitals.
Sacrifices (your safety and truckers) must be made in the name of November elections and profits.
Just that? I am sure true republicans can afford to do much more for the country, why not 24, or double that, 48! Hail Trump!
He truly is a genius.
Not surprising, apparently no one in the USA gives a damn about traffic safety.
Deregulation because money.
I’m sure Tracy Morgan has an opinion on this decision
The last 2 links I’ve clicked on I’ve learned that Grizz died and Tracy almost died. Someone tell me Dotcom is doing okay
I read the articles at the time but they didn’t tell me Grizz died, why did you do this to me?
Now I’m sad that he’s dead and that the articles at the time didn’t think he was worth mentioning over a REAL celebrity.
He wasn’t in that crash. Apparently he died a few months ago from kidney disease. A truck crashed into his home in 2024 though, but he wasn’t home.
A very rich man hundreds or thousands of miles away accepts the risks to other peoples lives as a great deal.
How is someone supposed to get proper sleep working a sixteen hour day!?
Sorry wrong place to reply.
Carry on please!
Well, if they don’t eat, shower, take a walk or rest, never clean their clothes, do any chores or have free time, they can still sleep for ~7h after they park the truck and make sure the load is still secured.
That’s totally not slavery!
That’s the cool part. You never could get those things. So don’t think this is anything new.
Source: In my youth, I was dumb enough to drive for a few years, but I was never stupid enough to own one…
I don’t know what kind of driver you were. However, my dad’s been driving for around 30 years and he makes sure to sleep and shower and he does his laundry and everything else like that because all of the truck stops happen to have all of that stuff available to them. In fact, I do IT work now, and I work at a lot of the pilots and flying J’s, and for example, one of the ones I just did in a remote town was fix a shower door so that way it made sure to lock and unlock properly with the code. That being said, I can guarantee fucking t. He’s going to be extremely pissed if they try to force him to drive 16 hours a day.
I started before that. I did some LTL and OTR driving. You could find showers and some washing machines, if they were working, to wash your clothes along the interstates, but get off the road any distance and that all went away. I always loved getting to Ohio because their wayside rest stops had free showers for truck drivers. A welcome relief from paying $5 to $8 dollars to take a shower. If you wanted a free shower, you had to buy enough fuel for that.
He might be pissed now about driving 16 hours, but I can guarantee that he did drive those hours at times back in the day.
if they are supplying cocaine.
Don Jr enters the chat ⛷️
More like pervitin with this administration.
The drug of choice for truckers is meth.
The point is moot. With diesel skyrocketing they won’t be able to drive at all.
Trump is doing something Algore could only have wet dreams about… Trump is ending the Diesel and internal combustion engine (poorly planned acronymy). He might not like it but as soon as he is out and all the refineries are in shambles something has to replace all that. Probably hydrogen, and battery powered vehicles.
Trump is not that smart
It doesn’t matter. What matters is the guy is taming and cramming all the bulks he can find into the oil business China shop when the rest of the world leads in clean energy. When the dust settles, my guess is people will still be cold in winter and hot in summer and will still not care about where their energy comes from.
Toyota tried hydrogen years ago and it didn’t really catch on. If the global gas economy crashes, I know a lot of locations they could use as hydrogen fuel pumps.
It didn’t catch on because it’s stupid on multiple levels, from infrastructure engineering to realpolitik. Japan as a nation is just desperate for energy independence and pretending the hydrogen will be sourced from the expensive electrolysis and not cheap natural gas refinement was a way to get free government money.
They convinced themselves that all the petrostates, which includes America and Russia, would just abandon their current economic advantage to pay them billions of dollars to rebuild their entire vehicle fuel infrastructure, since they would be the industry leaders and the only major source of engineering knowhow.
Well I’d like to add that Ford did too indirectly and it works. I personally rode both a fuel cell bus and one with a Ford Hydrogen combustion engine and both worked wonderfully. The hydrogen was sourced from electrolysis at a wind turbine. It was a proof of concept. And most relevantly… Toyota is at this again. It actually never quit because it is a smart move. Hydrogen can be easily had from natural gas or water and natural gas or oil is already the normal fuel. So you start at normal, then you switch when normal is gone. It’s expensive but let’s remember, Japan is an island with no oil deposits and a ton of smart people. Ofcourse they would try to figure it out.
…it might be a new benefit in hiring, we’ll compensate a per centage of your fuel costs…after two months…and we’ve earned interest on it…follow my rabbit hole for further financial advice…/s?
Then the industry practice will be to force all the truckers with than benefit after 1 month, 3 weeks, 6 days so they don’t have to pay it.
…you must be a graduate of my FAMILY accounting course, any problems with that?..menaces
Lol. The U.S. is on a suicide speedrun.
As a non-American, I find it baffling and hilarious that many Americans are proud to work 80 hours a week. It’s not a flex. They’d regret having done so when they become too frail and forgetful at the old age. And all the money they saved and pension being collected will be spent on healthcare and medication instead.
They did not even live their life when they were young and they won’t even enjoy the remainder.
They’re fucking dumb
Propagandized == Dumb. No one is immune to propaganda, but propaganda can be overcome.
The dumber the better propaganda works. And Americans are dumb as shit. Don’t believe me, look who is president for the second time
Look around the world. Many corrupt and evil people are taking hold of power.
Americans are no dumber than any other demographic. They have, however, been subject to a century-long propaganda campaign to instill subservience to capitalist ideology while those same capitalists have been dismantling any educational system or media outlet that might break that subservience.
Beware of the “Americans dumb” rhetoric, because a false sense of superiority is the exact thing that led Americans to accept the propaganda. It can happen to your country, too (and probably is happening, to be real).
Just like the Japanese and Chinese right?
apparently in academia, they think its a flex for PI to be working that much, granted the competitive to be hired at 4-year is pretty high.
Didn’t live when was young. Can confirm.
Jokes on you, I’m young(ish) and not enjoying it already. Haven’t been enjoying it since about 2002.
We don’t even have pensions.
Nah, it’s been a marathon this is just that last sprint before the finish.
The finish line is a cliff/societal collapse.
A couple years ago in the US, they switched from largely paper-based driver logging and random checks to an all-electronic tracking system, which was much more difficult to fake. Basically overnight, every rest stop and free truck parking area was jam-packed, and states have had to expand them since. It’s important to note that nothing about the rest requirements actually changed, just how they were enforced. So, logically, before the electronic logging, a large number of truckers were just flagrantly ignoring the law, and it became evident after the fact.
I wonder if there’s a name for that kind of phenomena.
I don’t know about a name. I will just write it once more as this is yet another example of: “self-regulation is the same as no regulation”.
You think we would have learned this from school. When there’s no teacher in the room to watch the testing, some kids alway cheat. The more they get away with it, the more kids decide to cheat. This seems super basic, but somehow they still convince people “self regulation” works.
self-regulation is the same as no regulation
Yup!
A couple years ago? My grandpa was a trucker and this changed before he died over a decade ago.
Time flies. I was in the industry, working for one of the first companies to install electronic tachographs into trucks. When I left in 2011, our customers were largely hazardous materials transporters, with a sprinkling of companies that were caught with so many HOS violations that the DOT ordered them to use devices like hours. That was indeed more than a decade ago, but it feels like yesterday.
Yeah, I guess the paper logs phaseout started in 2017, so a couple more years than a couple 🤣
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-service/elds/implementation-timeline
As they say: time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like an banana.
If you’re driving 16 hours a day, then your cargo should probably be going by rail.
Well this is fuel hauling, so multiple stops or loads in a day to service stations. Even if they had rail service set up at the gas station for delivery, rail companies in the US hate small customers like that these days.
Hm now I’m wondering how the volumes compare, between what one truck carries and how much one gas station stores.
I just noticed I have no idea how large those burried tanks are.
Just a couple of years ago in my neighborhood a truck driver was arrested because he offloaded 4000 gallons of gasoline at a gas station, then ran the hose down an embankment next to the station and pumped the remaining 8000 gallons into a creek. He did this because he wanted to go home and didn’t feel like making the rest of his stops. He apparently thought nobody would notice; for bonus points this was right next to a charter school which had to be evacuated while they cleaned up the mess.
He was arrested and sentenced to 20+ years in prison. This is the intelligence level that can get hired as a fuel truck driver (TBF I’m sure they’re not all that stupid).
Edit: just for funsies, the gas station where this happened recently rebranded as a “Freedom Fuel” station lol.
I’ve herd of people dumping the news papers they had to deliver in order to say they diliverd them. But this is different. Doesn’t the guy need to get the invoice signed at every station?
I think his strategy was to tell his bosses he had run out of fuel and wouldn’t be able to make the rest of his deliveries. But I dunno, the articles about this never said what his thought process was. I drive past this station twice a day and the stink from it was horrible. 8000 gallons is a lot of fucking gas.
This reminds me that years ago I was friends with a bunch of Red Bull girls. Their job was to pick up the Red Bull mini-cooper, fill it with cases of Red Bull and then drive around handing out free samples wherever people were while being attractive. They were very good at the being attractive part, but most days they would just drive to the river, dump the cases of Red Bull in it, and then go home and get high. Their bosses suspected something like this was going on and gave them all Windows Mobile PDAs that tracked their location by GPS. I checked out the tracking app (I was a Windows Mobile developer at the time) and it turned out it just logged their GPS coordinates once an hour into a plain text file. I showed them how to edit the file to make it look like they were driving around – just doing my part saving at least some people from trying fucking Red Bull.
The only way this would be more efficient would for direct piping but this would be less efficient as you would need to create a network and not all stations would want to sign up. The airports in the UK operat this but this was so it’s harder to cut supplies off to airports as they are critical infrastructure.
rail has ludicrously expensive infrastructure and no way of adding new stops in less than multiple years.
Rail can add and remove heavy rail temporary sidings in a matter of hours. When rail was the only powered freight option agricultural sidings would be put down to collect produce in a small area, then picked up and moved down the tracks a couple of miles, rinse and repeat. There are places in the world right now where narrow gauge light rail is placed into fields to collect produce, and picked up and moved multiple times for the same field.
It was made expensive by letting the oil companies force regulatory capture on it, then tear up all the rails they let could. There were more rails in the US 100 years ago then there are today. Adding stops didn’t take years when there were already rails near by to branch off of. The only reason adding stops is so hard now it because the cut down lines.
don’t train stops still need significantly more land than is practical for individual gas stations to have?
One train stop (utility freight, not passanger) is much larger, sure. But how many tons does it process compared to an 18-wheeler? Then, in high density urban centers where you have passenger trains, they normally put them underground. Meaning, the only “land” they take up is about the size of 2 pumps, without the accompanying convenient store. Meanwhile, they remove thousands of cars off the road per day.
It is unquestionably more efficient to run more trains for both freight or passenger. That is why oil and gas hate it. So they buy-in and stack the boards of the rail companies, beg congress for more “regulation and safety”, and cripple expansion with mandatory oversight comittees to slow down whatever gets through. All classic plays.
and what about in less urban areas, where there are a higher number of gas stations per person? where you don’t need more than a semitruck of gasoline/desil/propane per week?
Truckers arent going to be driving anywhere if the price of diesel doesnt slow.
We’ve got to remove private monopolies on rail lines so freight rail can be used efficiently as a major alternative to trucking.
I don’t think many people understand how that will affect them.
Well they won’t change how they vote, IMO.
After being unable to convince anyone of anything that was going to happen and change even one mind, my only joy is watching them suffer the results of their shitty choices. My next high is scheduled for next year when everyone scratches their head on why the governemt needs to double the national deficit to bail out Dario and Sam.
I hope they all die violent deaths.
Fun fact: it’s definitely not going to slow. It’s about to get even worse. Unless of course the government decides to subsidize the hell out of diesel to make it cheaper.
Is Elmo’s electric truck ready yet?
its filled with ketamine.
Volvo’s is.
https://www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/trucks/electric.html
Ford and GM canceled their electric delivery vans though. Perfect timing!
https://insideevs.com/news/776511/gm-brightdrop-production-ending-2025/
https://fordauthority.com/2025/12/ford-ev-van-also-cancelled-new-gas-model-will-take-its-place/
American car manufacturers are terrified of having to compete with Chinese EVs, so they’re not even going to make them at all.
An outstanding long-term stragegy, but nowadays, even CEOs don’t give a damn about “long term”. They’ll take their tens of millions of $ compensation package and move on to another company, leaving the mess to the next one.
Capitalism at its top efficiency.
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Best I can offer is a Canadian diesel electric hybrid.
Now with 1,000% more toddler tantrum tariffs.
Edison is doing some crazy shit
Those are diesel-electric though. Effectively a diesel locomotive on wheels.
Bah, we don’t need to Commiedian Hybrid nonsense, we’re MURRICA. We will just conquer Commieda and take their oil to lower prices!
/s
Has been on the road for years and they’re expanding to Europe next year… Nothing close to original promised specs, but there’s videos on YouTube just asking their drivers what they think, they mostly like them.
Europe has had electric trucks from Volvo, Mercedes, MAN and Freightliner for years; forgive us if we’re not overly excited about the arrival of that ugly ass PoS…
I didn’t defend or promote it as a good thing, I just stated a fact. Pretending like it doesn’t exist just because you don’t like it or pedo-nazi Elmo doesn’t change the fact that it does…
It has the full self driving working right?
You know that scene in Logan with all the autonomous trucks driving around? That’s what it’s gonna be like.
Not to worry. We can always increase the limit to 24 hours per day, and make them drag the trailers with bicycles.
We can just import more meth from the drug boats we blew up.
