Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
LOL
It’s fascinating that the Pope gets threatened for being critical of Donald, and not, you know, facilitating an international child trafficking ring.
there can be only one
Time for the Pope to start using the excomunicato hammer again.
MAGA has no concept of soft power. They just don’t get it, do they?
“Might makes right” authoritarianism has no use for it. Why bother with getting people to like you when you have all the guns? Besides, these troglodytes are a pretty unlikable bunch in the first place - it’s simply not how they navigate the world.
“You can do anything you like with bayonets, except sit on them” Talleyrand, circa 1815
Well, they’re clearly aware enough to feel threatened by it, given that that’s all the power the Vatican holds
The idea seems to be to use the hard power to make the soft power go away.
It doesn’t work like that of course, but fascists are gonna fascist.
The Church started/was named by a global empire. By the time of Constantine, who would preside over Church commandment debates from the Pope’s throne, Jesus’s peace/humanism was erased from the church in favour of old testament’s divine right of emperor to kill and steal. Heresy laws applied to interpreting bible as humanist Jesus instead of the blessing of warmongering.
Pope really needs to undo the pre dark ages warmongering changes to Christianity. Jesus was a reformer. Yahweh a demon son that usurped his father El. Jesus’s father god was El not Yahweh.
So, it’s time to attack to Vatican?
this reminds me of that Bogdanoff twins meme
How many divisions does he have?
Time for the Pope to call a crusade. Deus Vult.
Maga Yanks are total nutters
If a side-effect of Trump’s idiocy is having the Vatican bombed out of existence, as a Roman, I’ll take it.
Why do Romans wish for the Vatican to be bombed out of existence? Honest question, and I’m not religious or anything.
Because for true Romans the Vatican will always represent the last bit of the temporal power that Popes exercised on the population for centuries and that keeps being exercised de facto true the corruption and continuous ingerence of the Catholic Church in Italian political affairs, local and national.
Not that they are better or worse than all other priests of any confession or religion, but the Catholic Church is the one we have a quite fresh memory of.
If that happens you’d be getting another Duce
Nah, those need a Pope to stay in power in Italy.
It’s cool. None of this really matters anyways with the whole separation of church and state.
Idiot sub-adolescents thinking they’re smart
There you have it, if you had any doubts that the US has been taken over by a bunch of crazy people. In their words, they can do whatever they want, but they barely accomplish a thing.
Barely accomplish a thing?
What are you talking about?! Didn’t you see that the Dow was over 50,000 for a time period? Why are you laughing?
Trump was also gifted a glorious jumbo jet that we are using as Air Force One for the remainder of his term! And afterward, they said (on record by the way) it will be donated to the Trump Library! That’s how much they respect us!
And also, we ended the Iran war that they started! Look what they made us do to them! And we got— uh… what did we get again for winning? Anyway, we won and the straight thingie, the thing that we need to open? Hormel reopened (and they’re great by the way), where we put the oil is now ready to oil for us less price gas for all Americans now hence. We’re winning for days, so the Catholic Church needs to pick a side - and from my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
Uh, you think they’ve been taken over just recently? Trump just exposes what’s been going on for decades through his borderline personality disorder.
Yeah, the falacy that over a hundred million of people in the US just suddenly woke up and decided that they wanted their country to be controlled by a derranged multi-millionaire extremelly high on the Narcissist spectrum parroting near-Fascist and outright Fascist ideas, doesn’t hold up to even the most cursory logical analysis.
Only tribalist supporters of the “other party”, who thus desperatelly want to believe their tribal chiefs are not at all to blame in any way form or shape for America going down the path that led to a double Trump victory, will cherry pick and twist “evidence” and be very selective in the logical explanations to create logically-sounding (for the unthinking) theories that exhonerate their own chiefs that they’re so beyond real Logic that they’re akin to using “Magic” as explanation.
The field from were votes for somebody like Trump were a bountiful harvest has for decades been plowed and fertilized by American politicians and American billionaires using the Press and Think Tanks their own.
I’m starting to believe JD isn’t a true believer of his religion 🤡
In what fucking world does it make sense that i ally myself with the pope. I hate this timeline
