• Linearity@infosec.pub
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      Wtf is wrong with this place, why is everyone fighting
      And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

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        And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?

        He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.

        After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider fell down.

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          The nazi who shot and killed 51 Muslim worshipers in Christchurch in 2017, shouted ‘subscribe to pewdiepie’ at the start of his live streamed rampage

          you’ll have to excuse me if I never let that go

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          Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the impression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.

          I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.

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            Is bigotry for clout not somehow worse than at least holding a bigoted conviction?

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            Sorry, but something I’ve had to learn with time is that it really doesn’t matter who’s operating the gas chamber, if their actions rely on hundreds of other people openly saying “Death to all jews”. There’s no importance to whether those people would ever pull the lever themselves. The language is what’s important, not how much they were “only joking”. Both an ultra-racist and an edgy teen in their late 20s are just “trying to get away with it” and don’t care who they hurt.

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          I don’t really see the things he did and said (he didn’t AFAIK actually make that fiverr order btw) as taking “a fascist turn”. Not excusing him using slurs on stream or his weird dogwhistles to fascists during that period, though, he certainly did and said things he should not have. But I think there’s a difference between farming edgy meme culture, in an insensitive way, for views, and actually espousing fascist views and trying to convert people to them. I might be missing something, and I’m under no illusion that the guy is some perfectly kind and humble person, but I think he’s more than made up for his prior mistakes as a public figure, with what he’s doing as a public figure now. It’s quite clear he’s no longer in the cancerous influencer rat race, and hasn’t been for some time.

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            no its just virtue signalers and keyboard warriors remembering hed did a bad thing that one time on the bridge and assumed hes a Nazi now.

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              hed did a bad thing that one time

              Far more than the one time. He had a whole routine about exploiting overseas labor to perform humiliating stunts.

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                Nah I’m not going to take a lecturing, each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained, it’s why a lot of people on this page aren’t taking you guys seriously, your type are to tightly wound up

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                  each ‘incident’ can v easily have been explained

                  You hear this from serial sexual harassers all the time. Every individual incident has plausible deniability. It’s the trend line that eventually catches up with you.

                  your type are to tightly wound up

                  My type being… big budget advertisers on YouTube?

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            Yeah I’m certainly not going to claim to be an avid or long time watcher of pewdiepie but… No he didn’t? The fiverr thing happened, sure. But the rest of that is wild conjecture and misinformation.

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        lot of old farts on here that never grew up on youtube, just ignore the bitter old heads and people who think there to highspeed to have ever enjoyed his videos.

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              Maybe is because im not from US but i dont give a damn about this stuff. He is swedish so I totally get that he didnt gave a damn at the time either. This Nword stuff is a strange cultural trait of one of the most racial aware countries in the world that, btw, is very racist overall. And I agree that now he is more mature but I dont thing he essentially changed. He has been always very goofy and still is.

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                …Yeah man I’m American, don’t worry, you’ll never catch me arguing that America isn’t a racist country lol. This place fucking sucks, and that’s one of the big reasons why.

                Like I said I truly do not care about Pewdiepie. I don’t want anything bad to happen to him, I wouldn’t go out of my way to make anything good happen for him, he’s just irrelevant to me and that’s fine for both of us I imagine.

                Though I will say that if you elect to “not give a damn” about other people being exposed to racial slurs which make them feel dehumanized though, you’re an asshole and a privileged one at that. Just because it may not be particularly relevant in your culture (though, back on 420chan [I’m old], I remember Swedish people whining nonstop about the Somali immigrants in their country, so I’m not sure I’m entirely convinced that it isn’t a Swedish issue too) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t care about how it can hurt other people. Especially when said by someone with a global audience, especially when that global audience is largely children or teenagers.

                But also, to reiterate my reiteration: I do not care about Pewdiepie and am not suggesting he be exiled from humanity, only that he probably shouldn’t do that again. Which it sounds like he hasn’t, so… good?

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              He said the nword once (terrible thing), almost a decade ago, apologized for it and improved (I guess) as a person
              I’m sick of internet people calling for a guillotine whenever someone makes a mistake even once

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                The person I was responding to said

                I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.

                My point was not necessarily that he needs to be excommunicated from humanity, but that they might want to reconsider whether him “being the same guy all this years” is a good thing

                (I do not actually give a single shit about Pewdiepie in any fashion positive or negative)

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                yeah, its part of why the internet sucks, you make some bad decisions, fall for some stupid propaganda or listen to the wrong person, and you’re branded forever. People make bad decisions. It happens.

                gods forbid someone make a mistake and then take a step back to reexamine their lives to try and be a better person.

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            He literally defined low Q brain rot videos. there are good uses of YouTube, then there is this guy.

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        This is a site populated mostly by the too edgy or too contrarian for Reddit, with the same flaws in incentive systems as Reddit, why are you surprised lol.

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    Self-hosting is a literal addiction. lol
    I started with just an invidious instance and now I have my own audiobooks app that I’m also turning into a navidrome client. Did I say jellyfin and pihole, too?

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      Ha, yeah, I started on a Raspberry Pi 4 and now have spent over $2k on my server through various upgrades over the years.

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        Damn. That’s a lot of money. I actually didn’t spend anything on the hardware. I have a friend who gave me a dell optiplex he was about to throw away and a 2 bay Synology NAS with 8TB storage already on it when he upgraded. Been using them for 3 years now. The optiplex now runs Debian server, and the SynNAS is mounted to it as a mass storage for my stuff.

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      I’m curious, is self-hosting invidious even worth it? Youtube can still see every video you pull through, right, and now it’s linked to a static ip address associated with you?

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        I do it for iPhone and iPad for my wife (and me occasionally when I use an iPad) to watch YouTube since the official app is riddled with ads and a browser isn’t a good experience for her. She’s been loving Yattee.

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      Yeah I started my journey with an old laptop but I found the precariousness of it all too stressful, always in more fear I’m gonna lose my photo library so just stuck with the cloud in the end. Nice knowing it’s there for when I need it

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      What a silly thing to virtue signal about.

      “Hey everyone, I, too, know the meme about calling pewdiepie a nazi… why is he a nazi? Uhhhh cuz he is… cuz my other favorite quirky youtuber (and arent I cool for knowing him) hbomberguy said so in a viral vid 10 years ago… and that vid totally wasn’t capitalizing on pewdiepie being the largest youtuber channel in the world for any sensationalism and drama… or clipped in bad faith for a viral audience…”

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          Oh, yea, thats me, big nazi bootlicker.

          There are actual nazis around and you dilute it to be meaningless when you compare real harmful actual nazis to fucking pewdiepie. No one should take you seriously. Log off.

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            No one should take you seriously. Log off.

            Shocker that you actually handle online discussion with the desire to simply remove the people that you don’t agree with.

            Much like a Nazi.

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    I dont really understand, is it possible to block JUST the shorts on Youtube? Any idea where i can find more about that?

    I dont want to leave youtube just yet, but occasionally the shorts are melting my brain.

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    I love everything he has been doing recently. He is a master of story telling and goes surprisingly far into solving technology challenges, while keeping it fun and real. What an amazing transformation really

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      He did already have a background vocationally in this space so it wasn’t a transformation from nothing. Great stuff nonetheless!

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    He really went far from the Misogynist, racist piece of shit that made rape jokes, and who’s humor consisted of saying pussy every second line.

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      I don’t think he’s as dumb as he seems in some videos. His persona and mannerisms are very much a pan-Scandinavian thing. To me it’s a throwback to the early 00’s, when we filled our brains with plenty of Jackass, Blink 182 and Eric Cartman.

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        His Filthy Frank/Pink Guy aping years are definitely evident of that lol, beastmaster64 swimming into the sea to catch a Pokemon made for some funny moments.

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    Good on him for this. I started self-hosting a couple years back, so my “tech fence” is already fairly complete, with a few glaring omissions, still a WIP.

    I do wish he got someone to provide links to guides or wiki pages, but I understand that making people go out and search for things is also important, even if it’s a simple task to search on google/github for open source projects.

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      Or by mirroring his content to other video sharing platforms like LBRY/Odysee or Peertube. It requires little effort, seems to be risk free, and lays the foundation to migrate from YouTube at some point in the future.

      I’m a little puzzled why a lot of creators don’t do this, especially ones who criticize YouTube so much and promote self hosting.

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        I’m a little puzzled why a lot of creators don’t do this

        my guess is that when you become “YouTube famous” you get perks and increased volume pay. this comes with a new contract that has binding resolutions, blocking you from uploading your content to other platforms.

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        Odysee is a bit of a nazi platform and I think most people want to host their own peertube instance but putting your videos on someone else’s instance results in them going down when the instance does

        Tho since Pewds is getting more and more interested in tech, I think hosting a Peertube instance would actually be fitting for him.