Looks like Disney’s ability to keep milking their latest cute plush toy is coming to an end.
time to create another one. or get back to the old one. Young Yoda it is!
Maybe we can finally get a Jabba the Hut gay romance movie.
directed by Lee Kronin
Honestly a series following Yoda over his life showing the decline of the Jedi order would be pretty good. I’m actually kinda surprised that wasn’t a thing in the EU canon, though we did get a couple comics featuring young Yoda. Imagine how much worse of a blender Yoda in his prime would be, in EU canon he hefts a mini gun on his back and fucks up some droids and in one of the first clone wars (2008) episodes he literally blends a bunch of B1 droids in a tank.
Lucas was against exploring Yoda because that would diminish his mystique.
In a world way worse Yuuzhan Vong would’ve been Yoda species as the invading force from unknown regions of space.
I think the best way to deal with Yoda is to keep him as far as possible from current Star Wars soap opera framework and maintain his stories strictly in the realm of myths that might or might not be true so that every story is standalone and self-contained. something like Samurai Assassin series used to do for example
Fair enough, still wish we could get a name for his damned species even if it was just some Old Republic identification code or something.
Also now I’m trying to think of how to deal with an invading force of Yodas species, all I’m coming up with is Base Delta Zero or 40k exterminatus namely virus bombs.
It would’ve been way funnier if Yoda actually turned out to be the last representative of the Sith species. Now that’s what i call a pointless rug pull.
(Wookiepedia got pictures of OG Siths as these guys with handlebar moustache like facial features - which technically means Hulk Hogan could’ve been a lore accurate Sith.)
Star Wars going full 40k with the Yoda Invasion would’ve been lit.
To be completely honest, I didn’t even hear about this movie at all until like 2 weeks ago and I just assumed they’d release it as a Disney+ exclusive or something. I even went to a movie theater like a month ago and I heard absolutely nothing about it. Anecdotally, this tells me their marketing team had no faith in their product, so why should anyone else?
Which is sad, because apparently they spent quite a bit on marketing. I think their problem is they’re trying to get other markets to watch like women, lgbqt, kids, ect. But in doing do they ailenated like 90% of their core customers, then they’re shocked about it.
And you’re right, the problem with this movie is it wasn’t really “bad” but it shouldn’t have been made a full blown theatre move. It should have been a Disney+ $20 rental or something then make a season 4 for normal steaming.
they’re trying to get other markets to watch like women, lgbqt, kids, ect. But in doing do they ailenated like 90% of their core customers
This is an incel take.
Yeah, the story of an attractive, emotionally sensitive guy raising a child alone in a harsh world is like marketing poison to women. /s
Star Wars was originally aimed at women because fatherhood was a central theme of the films. /s
I think y’all are underestimating Pedro Pascal’s woman fanbase.
That opinion is completely insane.
Congrats on having an absolutely brain dead take
I bet you cried when you learned that women have peach fuzz.
Or, you know, Just release it on Disney+, for Disney+ subscribers, who already pay for it by subscribing to Disney+, instead of being a cunting multi-billion dollar company thats trying to double dip on customers during a financial crisis, and expecting them to pay more, just to keep getting the shit they’ve been watching, because you decided for no good reason to switch platforms for no justifiable reason outside of corporate greed.
I fucking hate when they do this shit. Disney is also guilty of it with other properties, like Kingdom Hearts… Oh, want to know all the story? Go buy 10+ platforms and twice as many games to understand what the fucks going on…
But in doing do they ailenated like 90% of their core customers, then they’re shocked about it.
people that love darth vader didn’t want to see “baby yoda, the film”? I’m astonished.
Why would anyone make a movie to cater just to get the ~20% of the population that are white straight males? Movies are hard enough to make profitably. Why would you focus on such a miniscule market as straight white males?
Going to the movies, in THIS economy?
To watch a disney movie
We go once a year. We saw across the spiderverse in 2024, tron ares last year, will see the backrooms soon and the third spiderman next year. It’s not worth anymore. I had never seen an imax, so we saw tron in imax, was amazing. But not worth $80 for 2 adults and a child. And we brought our own snacks! I brought beef jerky, kiddo brought something, I don’t remember. Shared a drink.
We saw across the spiderverse in 2024
Is that “To Be Continued” ever going to be resolved?
Supposed to be next year. I didn’t see that coming, didn’t realize it had been 90 minutes and was like wtf!
June 2027 supposedly. Beyond the spiderverse.
Yeah. My son and I went to see Project Hail Mary in an IMAX theater. That was pretty awesome, and I think worth it. But honestly there just aren’t that many movies coming out these days that warrant making an occasion out of it. I’m more comfortable watching at home when it comes to streaming.
It’s ok once in awhile, but not regularly.
I had no idea this was being made until just now
we 👏🏻 don’t 👏🏻 have 👏🏻 money 👏🏻 for 👏🏻 movies
True and If I do have money to spend on a movie I want something new and good not more milking of starwars witch has become slop.
starwars witch
I think the Acolyte aeries was dealing with Star wars witches.
Did not see it and I am haapy.
Keep it that way.
Ahsoka had 'em. Never watched acolyte tho
The cost to go with a movie with one friend is around $30-35 where I live. This assumes buying no concessions.
The cost to buy that movie on a physical format (assuming it releases on one) is $20-30 depending on whether that format is DVD or Blu-Ray.
A lot of folks right now could not afford either option. But even for those who can, the math doesn’t math on movie theaters.
And while concessions have been overpriced forever, they’ve really gone nuts with it recently. I was gonna buy a large bag of popcorn, a bottled water, and 2 sodas and it was gonna be like 50 bucks.
Yup. It costs them cents on the dollar to make. Rip off.
Ironic as movies got popular because they were cheap entertainment during the world wars.
There’s a new Star Wars movie?
Bros, you killed the franchise with all the mediocre shit you pumped out. You bought an IP, you drove it into the ground by shoveling out a bunch of cash-grab trash, and now you wonder why people aren’t lining up for your new movie?
Are you kidding? There is literally no industry in which this strategy works. walmart might as well put out a special new “locally made” brand on their shelves, and marvel at why people aren’t falling over themselves to buy it.
The sequels were garbage. I dont think I ever need to watch them again.
I liked tfa. But tlj and tros was so utter garbage. Ugh. I didn’t even pay for them and I want my money back
At least they stumbled backwards into making Andor, the only good star war.
It was such a fucked up mix of genres. Half the movie people are getting their face ripped off by monsters and the other half is watching a fuckin teletubbies episode???
It’s their own fault. They haven’t had a Christmas Special for ages.
Honestly, they should buy, and then run, the Rifftrax version of the Christmas Special. One of the funniest damn things I’ve ever seen. It deserves becoming a midnight special type of movie…
I wonder why people are still watching this stuff. Maybe it is the crowd that wants to be able to say “I’ve seen all Star Wars movies” as the sole motivation.
Star Wars stopped being interesting a long time ago.
With the exception of Andor, which is one of the best shows of the last decade.
I’ll second this. Andor is incredible.
I was irrationally angry when George sold his IP to the Mouse. The original trilogy and expanded universe from my childhood is still my Star Wars.
Disney was the wrong choice.
Rogue One worked. But they got greedy.
Rogue One was leaps and bounds above the sequel trilogy but I would still say it’s not a great movie. Once it gets up to speed and the whole cast has been properly introduced, it’s fantastic, but it takes so much of the movie until it gets to that point. Even as a fan, the first half of the movie is a slog where the main character has very little agency or drive, and they’re basically just being brought along instead of driving the plot. It’s a movie that, in my opinion, starts poorly and ends amazingly.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’ll fight a bitch that claims anything other than Andor is the smartest and most watchable serialized offering on any streaming medium, with arguably the most compelling characters in the entire Star Wars arc outside of the original trilogy (hat tip to @furzegelo and @OldQwertybastard).
Thank you one and all; now I’m off to go assault dickhead @crt_alt_esc for not knowing his/her (meager and uninformed) place.
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Have you seen Andor?
I watched a random clip on youtube: a ship with lateral lightsabers cutting TIE fighters. I’m not watching more of it.
I don’t think that’s a good scene to judge it on, personally.
As someone who hates modern star wars, and only mildy enjoys the original trilogy, I thought Andor was extremely compelling, and some of the finest sci-fi, or fiction in general, that I’d ever seen (and I am very picky).
It is, in essence, a brilliantly written rendition of an oppressed people building an effective and realistically depicted underground resistance movement against a fascist regime which happens to be attached to the star wars IP (which it uses well, aesthetically). So more of a tightly written political/espionage thriller than it is traditional space opera.
The quality of the writing is far, far beyond any other star wars movie or show, going very much into the territory of Where Eagles Dare, The Godfather, or or 3 Days of The Condor. The dialog is excellent, the plots excellent, the pacing excellent, I have very few complaints.
I think the quality of it comes from the writer Tony Gilroy putting a tremendous amount of effort into researching historical revolutions and drawing from those, which makes it feel very grounded.
If you dislike modern star wars, I really implore you to give Andor a chance, it makes none of the mistakes of modern Disney star wars, in fact it could not be more different.
There’s only 3 original star wars unless you’re counting the ewok movies and the holiday special. The prequels were twenty years later and are not original star wars.
The prequels are part of the original star wars (george lucas) saga
You’re just referring to when Lucas owned star wars?
lol. Ok princess.
I must have struck a nerve implying that Jar Jar Binks might have less character depth than any of the Andor cast.
Don’t know what was deleted there. But Darth Binks seems to evoke strong emotions in many.
Mostly for violating the anti-sniveling policy.
Don’t know what was deleted there.
Ask the mods, they did it
You know Jar Jar Binks. let’s see in 27 years from now how much of the Andor cast you remember.
Whelp, gonna go out on a limb and posit that I’ll be able to recall the lead character’s name. ‘Cause of the title, you see.
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Andor always felt like a series adapted for star wars it could have stood on it’s own
It benefits greatly by not being about the Jedi and the Force primarily.
In which case it’s a sci-fi universe that lets us combine space tech with 1970s and 80s aeethetics.
It benefits greatly by not being about the Jedi and the Force primarily
I cannot tell you how happy I was when Luthen turned out NOT to be a secret Jedi… omg that would have sucked if he pulled out a lightsaber at the end to save everyone
I didn’t even consider that scenario, it would have ruined the entire show for me, thank god they kept that kind of execs away from this show
Snuck past the Disney execs somehow. Or else they said “y’know what let’s make one prestige show for the Emmy bait.”
I find most of the shows were good in their own way.
The Acolyte had some of the best lightsaber combat in a live action show or movie that I’ve seen.
The recent Darth Maul animated show was pretty good as well
andor was probably the best DISNEY can offer
Andor is strong mid at best… it’s literally the exact same story as the first movies. So incredibly uncreative… still, miles better than all the other star wars crap from disney.
Surely you jest.
Season 2, episodes 7, 8, and 9 showcase some of the most compelling sequences on TV. Diego Luna, a man under enormous pressure ready to come apart at the seams, run by master manipulator Stellan Skarsgård. Andy Serkis. Forrest Whittaker. Empire baddies Denise Gough and Ben Mendelssohn. What about Genevieve O’Reilly as Mon Mothma, who gives a masterful portrayal of brittle grace over a thinly-veiled nervous breakdown?
There was very little room left in the storyline chronology for a third season, and I suppose I could just watch Rogue One yet again, but knowing that doesn’t ameliorate my disappointment that we don’t get any more Andor.
Andor stayed true to the original Star Wars ethos. Rogue One as well, aspects of Solo, and some elements of the Mandalorian. Best Star Wars offerings outside the original trilogy screenplays hands down. Fight me.
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Don’t disagree with you
Best Star Wars offerings outside the original trilogy screenplays
Unfortunately, that still doesn’t make it better than strong mid
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As a massive long time fan, I’d say the issue is Star Wars was originally a post-war film, and it’s been deliberately held back from evolving to keep it recognizable. As a result, it doesn’t resonate with audiences the way it used to. It’s just not relevant any more. Andor was a great example of what they can do within the Star Wars galaxy to be relevant.
As a lifelong Star Wars fan, I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun, the soundtrack was great, the environments were really detailed and cool. The writing was mediocre, but it’s for kids ultimately, so I don’t expect it to be super complex - and it was still better than the Super Mario Galaxy movie for sure. There are more adult-oriented Star Wars content like Andor which is also great, but the kid-friendly content is also good fun if you just accept that it’s content designed for kids!
And I fear that the lesson Hollywood will learn from this is that we don’t like Star Wars, rather than that we don’t like endless half-assed slop. Disclaimer: I have not seen this movie so I don’t know if it’s actually good.
But “endless half-assed slop” is the Official Motto of 2026!
CEO: Just produce double the half-ass and we’ll have whole asses!
Artists: But it’s still slop.
CEO: Wow, whole ass…
Artist: Seriously, fuck this guy.
Star Wars has been “half-assed slop” for 49 years. Some of its better than others, but the there’s plenty in the OT to hate on if you want to hate. I love it anyway.
The movie was good. As good as any compareable segment of the D+ show. See it in the theatre if you can afford to.
In a galaxy far, far away.
But they have the lovable glip-glorp, the kooky jazz bar and another death star to blow up.
The Mandalorian was initially meant to be a side series for fans. It was lower budget, practical effects, and little to no core characters from the main franchise. Unfortunately, basically every other Star Wars IP fell flat on its face since then, so by default, The Mandalorian is now the flagship Star Wars storyline. The movie was good as a nice side story for fans, it was bad as a franchise-running blockbuster. It’s really amazing how many bad decisions Disney had to make to end up here.
The way the Boba Fett series flopped and tried, repeatedly, to draft on the Mandalorian’s success within 1 session…ooofda.
I was never a Boba Fett fan, I thought he was highly overrated and a big “So what?” who managed to sell merch.
And even I hate Book of Boba Fett with a passion for how badly they fucked up his character.
How the hell does someone who served as one of Jabba’s Right Hand Men act this incompetently as a crime lord?
Practical effects? Wasn’t pretty much the entire thing filmed in Disney’s version of “The Volume”?
Correct. They even produced a behind the scenes segment showing them filming in the volume with light changes, etc.
What the volume is supposed to alleviate is post-production. What they filmed in that scene is what we’ll see most of the time - no need to generate and color match the background. Think of all The Avengers scenes that were green screen - tons of post production work had to be done for every scene.
This is the movie equivalent of “this meeting could have been an email”.
it wasn’t bad. but felt like it should have been a whole 5 episode season than a movie.
I don’t know who started this trend to change before release a series to a movie or a movie to a series but it’s probably already time to stop
Not sure if it’s a trend, but that happened to Moana 2.
Weird, what company made this Moana 2 you speak of?
I went and saw it in theaters. It was pretty good. Not earth shattering, but it just basically felt like a really long episode of the show.
Also, Zeb from Rebels was pretty prominent and I’m a sucker for Rebels characters.
Did it feature ya boi and kiwi legend Temuera Morrison?
Sadly, no Morrison appearance in this movie. Would have been cool to have Rex show up or something and have him play him in live action.
Get used to it. Disney is going to grind Star Wars into dust.
going to
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From what I understand, they truly do mean to make the lowest possible content money can buy, cram full of “fan recognizable moments” to make the most amount of money out of it as possible.
As in, that’s the goal, on purpose. Not as a “unintended side effect of us just being inept at making anything these days”. But just being VERY good at squeezing money from brands like Star Wars.
Just turning out slop. Easy. Comfy. Low content slop. And then sell stuffed Grogu’s. Andor was a fluke because the director was able to make something out of nothing. Without ever touching so much as “the force” or even a lightsaber!
We need more of that director.
For some of us the ship has already sailed. Episode 8 fundamentally changed the way I think about Star Wars. Before that, I’d already come to the realization that, despite leaning SW in the Star Wars vs Star Trek rivalry, I actually liked ST better. But I still had a love for SW that meant I would be in the theatre to see whatever SW movie was there.
Ep 8 killed that. For the better IMO because it was a stupid obsession, even if it wasn’t as strong as it previously was.
I saw Ep 9 in the theatre, but it was more of a symbolic finishing what I started many years prior. My viewing was somehow full of contempt and there was much that fed it. I’ve watched a bit of the other stuff Disney has put out and it wasn’t bad like eps 8 and 9 were, but I just don’t care as much anymore.
Like I understand Andor was well done. I might get around to watching it eventually, but I’m in no rush.
Star Wars has gone from an automatic “yes!” to just another franchise, for me at least.
Casual fan, but star wars lost me at episode 2. The original trilogy are a big part of my childhood so I’d have seen the others but can’t sit through them. I genuinely like Mandy but lost interest after season 3 and I tried to watch the other shows but just… didn’t like them. I know some hardcore fans but even they lost it after the final couple of films
Episode 2 is the one where I had to tell myself that George Lucas just sucks at deep romance plots but that’s not why I was watching. Because yeah, those “romance” scenes were awkward af when they didn’t have action adding to the intensity. Plus Anakin was waving red flags right from Ep 2 and it took some suspension of disbelief to even accept them as a couple even before the dynamic caused by their age difference (and Anakin acting like a child because Padme treats him as a child) and somehow she ends up even more attracted to him?
But the overall plot was still coherent (though maybe I was more forgiving because I knew it had to check off certain boxes to fit and it did) and not just going for that reaction in a live audience sitcom when one of the main characters first enters the stage like Ep 7 (though it did have potential still IMO) or an “ok, I’ll make the next star wars movie, but I actually hate everything about star wars and want to show that through my Episode”, or “ah fuck, the last guy really made a mess out of this, can you fix it? Or just make something, anything to finish this trilogy and we’ll try to recover on other stories in the franchise”.
I like Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker, but they have no business co-existing in the same trilogy.
For the better IMO because it was a stupid obsession, even if it wasn’t as strong as it previously was.
- Jar Jar is the key to all this
George Lucas
Andor is overrated, I tuned out during the Heist Arc. 2 or 3 episodes of nothing but Rebels whining that Andor’s not one of the cool kids, then when the Heist actually happens we spend the first 1/3 of the episode marching… Andor was trash, the fact that people actually like it is a mystery that will forever baffle me.
Just turning out slop. Easy. Comfy. Low content slop.
But it’s not even AI generated? 🤔
Turns out the slop was corporate shit all along.
Slop doesn’t have to be AI generated.
See for reference: most mobile games.
Andor was a fluke because the director was able to make something out of nothing
I can’t be the only person who absolutely fucking hated Andor.
Hahaha, I can see it not being everyone’s cup o tea :-)
But my god did I like the writing and the levels upon levels of meaning crammed in there…
I found the “levels of meaning” to be purely artificial and came off as more annoying than, well, meaningful.
Like did the heist arc really need that much build-up if everyone involved was just going to die? What did we even learn about the people working the heist besides “That one guy wrote a book!”, maybe it’d be one thing if the people were even likable to begin with… Then I could feel sorry that it takes the lives of such wonderful people who deserve better to fight back against the Empire, but they didn’t even come off as likable. All they did was whine about Andor’s inclusion in the heist.
When they died I felt absolutely nothing.
And what was even the point of the Kyber Crystal? I thought for sure it’d be used in the Heist or something, that he’d have to sacrifice his method of payment for the mission… But no, nothing was done with it.
Oh and speaking of meandering, why did the episode where the heist actually happen start with a 15 minute marching scene? Might as well have been dead air.
I can handle a slow burn, but what I can’t handle is having my time wasted. And Andor excels at doing nothing with its runtime.
I just assumed it was a streaming movie. Basically just a long episode.
It is. But for some reason they released it in cinemas.
The reason is money.
Well, that didn’t work out.
It did it’s job. Line went up.
A big part of line go up logic is that if you don’t have the optimal line uppies per dollar, you’ve failed. It’s the reason why they tend to not do smaller projects, because $5 that returned $10 on something small is not as good as $5 that returned $20 on something big. So by their metrics, if you don’t have the maximum possible line uppies per dollar, you’ve failed.
Andor is the only star wars property that was in any good, and that’s also because they ended it in 2 seasons. The rest are milked into mediocrity.
From Disney: Rogue One is season 3 of Andor, but you’re correct, it’s a phenomenal trilogy. Look to the animations; there are some great stories there. Bad Batch is pretty good. Rebels is great, and could make your eyes leak. If you soldier through all of Clone Wars… season 7 might be some of the best stars to war. I know multiple men it’s made cry.
Rip 99, you didn’t deserve this
I liked all 3 seasons of Mandalorian, I will say this movie wasn’t amazing though.
And also season 2.5, which was in Book of Boba Fett.
