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“Science” under capitalism is not just political. It’s literally fascist.
“I thought I was autistic. It turns out I’m retarded.”
This is my darkest fear.
But you could end up on a Netflix dating show, so that’s cool.
Coming this fall. Retarded dating.
Holy shit, it actually exists. It’s called “Down for Love”.
I thought it was Love Island.
SHOTS FIRED
Names and addresses.
abigail (the person below, philosophy tube on nebula & youtube). did so on her video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S5w18sjYLk
so many companies/entities mentioned are headed/linked to the same bunch of people. I watched it few weeks ago, sorry couldn’t specify the timestamp. but also heads up, 2 hours video.
This feels like another recycled playbook: take vulnerable people, create doubt, then sell it as “concern.” People deserve support, not weaponized stigma.
But supporting people is hard and I don’t want to do it. Why do that when I can just exploit them instead?
But how come?
Supporting people is rather easy actually. Being compassionate, caring and listening the other person and being supportive is generally rather easy and oftentimes just words are enough to encourage or console them. That stuff is so easy it can be even faked on autopilot without any effort.But at the other hand, taking advantage of others/exploiting them just feels bad and even if it’s possible to get used to it. It’s kinda exhausting to constantly look over ones shoulder for the inevitable repercussions from the person being exploited and to avoid being exploited by anyone else?
Even if taken from the perspective of trying to exploit people. Helping them become better is a more profitable long term investment.
More like “I thought I was autistic. I know I am autistic.”
Yes, I’m actually autistic. Seriously!
Well what are their names?
Yeh this is not doxxing if they are literally attempting to shape national policy. If you want to be left alone you should leave the fucking laws alone
They are a clear and present danger to people and must not be spared criticism and shaming for their actions.
They are a clear and present danger to people and must not be spared
criticism and shaming for their actions.
Her hair is fantastic.
It’s probably also AI generated if I’d have to venture a guess
It’s funny since if you think you’re autistic and it turns out you’re not the consequence is literally nothing; your life continues the same as it was before.
Also let’s be honest; Christina Buttons is 100% an AI generated character.
The diagnosis was just a formality for me.
I say we sick these cunts on the antivaxxer idiots and let them claw each other’s eyes out over which logical fallacy is the true one lol
Let them gaslight each other to death as society slowly moves forward without them.
Im following here, I am getting that there islikely overlap in anti-lgbt and antivaxxers but what has one to do with the other in terms or people living their lives?
One is a diagnosis, the other is definitively not
Because trans people’s brains are literally wired to be the gender they transition into, not the body they’re born in.
Every transgender person I know, including the one I’m married to, knew from a very young age their brain didn’t match their body.
Finding out and accepting you’re trans is the diagnosis.
Cool. I dont get what this post is saying as it relates to autism or trans people.
I dont get how what you are saying ties to the post.
The comparison they are making is that there was a stage where all of a sudden a bunch of people were claiming to de-transition and people believe it was a kind of co-ordinated thing to “prove” that transgender was just some kind of fad. OL is saying now that they are doing a similar thing with autistic people going back on their diagnosis and that the strings are being pulled by those who want to “prove” that autism is being over-diagnosed.
Essentially, it’s the “strategy” being used that’s comparable. It’s designed with an agenda.
Honestly, wouldn’t be that surprised. There’s like 30-50 people who are pushing the anti-trans narrative. Seems like you don’t need a whole lot of people to build a conspiracy like this.
As with most writing it tells you more about the author than anything else.
In this case if you’ve got rainbow hair you’re obviously an evil liberal who is on the take.
Isn‘t autism and many other psychological conditions under and over diagnosed at the same time? A friend of mine got her diagnosis at the age of 31 (under diagnosed) and her doctor talked with her about social media bringing more people to her, which think they have autism, but don‘t (over diagnosing).
I don‘t want to talk anyone out of their diagnosis or give them doubts. As long as there are tests there will always be false negatives and positives and so if you test more it will influence the outcome.
PS: The article is probably bullshit.
Yeah, and there does seem to be an increasing number of people who self-diagnose medical conditions such as autism, and then use them as excuses for their own shitty behavior.
Or sometimes that of others. I had a relative try to excuse Elon’s bullshit as autism. No, aunt Grace, autism does not make people throw out Nazi salutes.
Often it’s the same people who dismiss legitimate challenges other people face due to medical conditions yet have one of their own (self-diagnosed) they use to excuse shitty behavior.
What you’re describing isn’t really an over-diagnosis thing though, it’s more that visibility has increased and the stigma has been reduced, so more people go to a professional to have it investigated.
Over-diagnosis would be people who actually get diagnosed with autism but end up not having it.
I think the criteria and diagnosis evolving as the science gets better also has an impact. The idea that only young boys have autism was the prevalent one not that long ago, but we know better now so now more people are being diagnosed with it since we understand it better.
I’m trans and wasn’t diagnosed as a kid because i had high masking autism (“girl autism”) instead of the “boy autism” they were looking for.
I disagree, I think the anecdote of an adult over 30 years of age being diagnosed is a fair example of under-diagnosis. And since your comment was more on the over-diagnosis side, I think it’s fair to point out. That the visibility and lowered stigma contribute to the over-diagnosing. It can’t be helped. Medical professionals are subject to the same biases of visibility that the rest of us are, even if they should know better.
Also some patients are certainly self-diagnosing based on freely available information, be it valid or not, and sharing their diagnosis as if it was a real one. When others encounter these claims, their instinct typically isn’t to argue or accuse someone of being a fake autist so they update their own mental models with a “this is what autism looks like” and the trend continues.
Oh trust me a LOT of peoples instinct is to accuse autistic people of being “fakers”. It’s something autistic people without an intellectual disability deal with regularly from general public and the government (various ones, I’m not even in the US) aren’t helping at the moment.
Ah, I misinterpreted you then, that’s my bad. :)
Well, there’s two things to consider.
One is just how many folks “self diagnose”. Rather than a stigma being reduced, it’s often held up as a trait of superiority to the “normies”, so some folks will assert it. There’s a fine line to walk between unfair stigma versus unjustified glorification. The internet is full of this.
Two is that ultimately, there’s room for being subjective even among professionals. See the parents of a kid that my kid was friends with. They lamented they got told by 5 psychologists that their kid was not autistic before they finally found one that “correctly” saw the kid’s autism. They were so excited to have proof that their kid was one of those autistic folks that are super smart…
One is just how many folks “self diagnose”.
I’m not sure this would count towards any statistics of over-diagnosis though, as a self-diagnosis isn’t a diagnosis.
Two is that ultimately, there’s room for being subjective even among professionals.
This is true. Ultimately it’s humans judging humans and there will be errors in the process.
It is exactly what I am describing. In any test you will have false positives. Then the broader you test the more false positives you get. This was also a thing during Corona in Germany. At the start of the pandemic only people with symptoms should get tested, because with low case number and even a very good test and test procedure you can easily get more false positives than true positives. This is true for every test where true positives are rare. The math is pretty simple here.
IMHO, in a way, it’s the desperate, desperate, oh so desperate need of people who can’t deal with the uncertainty of Probability and Statistics and thus require everything to be a clearly defined something, no variance, no deviations.
It’s the same reason why some people simply can’t accept the Theory Of Evolution: the idea that “countless” (not literally, but figurativelly) random variances will yield incremental changes which over time add up to major change is just beyond them, so better have a single (or a handful) of fantastical all powerful beings of unexplained (and never questioned) provenance be the designers and agents of creation of all we see.
As I see it, shit like this is mainly stupid people compensating (in the Psychology sense of the word) for their own inability to comprehend the World as is and without mentally simplify it down to a handful of little labelled boxes.
Yeah I think we all have that little voice at some point that goes what it atoms aren’t real, what if things are exactly as they appear? What about germs? What about the “globe”? What about “other” ““people”” and— and then you think about it a bit and it unravels very very quickly, but it’s good to be able to throw your entire mental model into doubt sometimes.
I wonder if some people aren’t able to build a satisfying mental model for some reason. I don’t think it’s just a matter of intelligence either, but something more emotional.
i think cycles of abuse play a factor. just like who makes life the hardest for trans people are people saying shit like “DON’T YOU THINK IF I COULD JUST LIVE MY LIFE AS A MAN I WOULD” or who often is the hardest on lesbians are married women saying shit like “well when i was younger i thought maybe i was attracted to your aunt susan but then my parents sat down with me and had the talk i’m having with you. you’re just cofused. you’ll come around in time. but until you come around you’re not leaving this house”
i think some of these awful ablist people got bullied in middle school for liking pill bugs, collecting baseball cards, or reading tolkein and now “they got through it” so they think other “weird” kids should, too. meanwhile us neurodivergent people think maybe we should try seeing if the world must truly run on blood
I think that’s a big part of it. My father disowned me when I came out as a trans woman and from everything I know about him he didn’t have the easiest relationship with gender. He was bullied for being small and weak as a kid because he was a very late bloomer and never really internalized that he was a large man. Like he also fits the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder, but I do think his relationship with the punishment for failure to sufficiently perform masculinity played a role. Hell when he tried to convince me not to transition he argued from the position that gender is entirely learned, which is absolutely not the official catholic position he thought it was, but is however consistent with what I’d expect from someone who had the background I described.
Hmm kind of sour grapes mixed with “I turned out fine” and then universalising that to a global proscription
The free press
Look inside: paywall
They mean the government can’t tell them what to print. Unfortunately the government also doesn’t seem to tell them not to print lies either.
