• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    70% of US voters want universal healthcare; 90% of Democrats and 50% of Independents.

    Only Republican voters disagree, with something like 30% supporting. (all of these numbers are approximations there are many Gallup polls over the years).

    I’m not a mathematician, but it appears to my untrained eye that 2/3 of Americans want Universal Healthcare. That’s a very solid majority.

    Why can’t Ds and Rs manage to provide what the US voters want? Allow Republicans or anyone else to “opt out” of the system.

    That’s a rhetorical question. bOtH pArTiEs aren’t interested in what their voters want.

    Somehow, Israel can be financed for DECADES without the same level of voter approval.

    50% of voters support Israel= billions of dollars every year

    70% of voters support universal healthcare= no universal healthcare.

    Kinda weird, ain’t it?

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      The health insurance lobby fights it and also employers don’t want it because then people can quit without worrying about losing their health care.

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        I doubt this. Most employees are low hourly salary, whether at Walmart or a local restaurant: they don’t offer healthcare so universal healthcare is a free benefit they don’t have to pay.

        Even for professional jobs, I don’t see how this can be true. I can see how much my employer pays for my healthcare and I’m sure they’d prefer not to pay it, or be able to match more competitive pay packages

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          If they can hold your healthcare over you, you will do a lot more to make sure you don’t get fired, giving them more power over you. I guess they all assume that is more valuable than what they currently pay for health insurance.

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      What’s stopping individual states from doing it? Blue states like California and New York are bigger than some European countries that have it.

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        12 days ago

        bOtH pArTiEs aren’t interested in what their voters want.

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      The US working class would have to mobilize serious strike action across the country to win universal healthcare. The capitalists don’t want their private property (companies, businesses) within the field of healthcare socialized. The working class can do it though. When organized and led by a revolutionary program and leadership, the working class can start to call the shots. All workers need to ditch the capitalist parties (dems and republicans) and support class independent parties and mobilize their power outside of the bourgeois political system.

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        There is no united front among the working class in the west. It’s because working class people who earn a middle income have been brainwashed to think they are “middle class” and thus think they are a separate group from the lower income workers. Like there are even white collar office workers who barely scrape by who think they are middle class and better than a plumber for example just because they don’t do manual labor and work at a big name corpo.

        The working class is fractured simply by how the media and the politicians have been using the term middle class. The real middle class is the bourgeoisie. The rich and wealthy who aren’t part of the ruling class. If people don’t realize this they will never mobilize against their masters.

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        The US working class would have to mobilize serious strike action across the country to win universal healthcare.

        Best we offer you is a “No Kings” protest/strike for just one day.

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        mobilize serious strike action

        Ain’t that illegal in most sates of the Land of the F®ee?

    • Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Public support fractures if the questions are broken down into more detail. People have unfounded fears of new “death panels”, and founded fears of the government screwing up implementation (Canada has crazy wait times for many medical services - it’s an outlier among developed countries, but demonstrates the screw-up opportunity). People support new services if they are funded magically, but aren’t willing to support tax raises, even though the tax increases would be less than the savings from not paying for private health insurance.

      The complexity - and partisan politicians being more than willing to weaponize confusion over details to divide us against each other - is the barrier.

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        I’m not an economist, but I bet if we cut the military budget to match that of ANY OTHER developed nation we could manage the healthcare costs.

        We don’t require 8x the military budget of anywhere else on Earth

        Want a compromise? Sure, let’s restrict our budget to the combined top competing THREE NATIONS.

        (on checking a couple sources, the math even checks out, and we’d STILL have the most powerful military in the world)

        It’s not that complex. One old-fashioned fireside chat will do it, it’s pretty obvious. We have DECADES of universal healthcare data and results, it’s not some new, radical, alien thing.

        Just provide Americans with real data. Presidents don’t HAVE to be babbling idiots, there’s another way!

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        Public opinion has “near-zero” impact on U.S. law

        Your source is absolutely biased and wrong… we all know that public opinion has ZERO impact, this is madness!

        Trump must have bribed these ivory-tower hipsters. I loathe them, with their soul patches and asses sticking out of their jeans and jaunty sideways baseball caps. Revolting

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      I’m not a mathematician, but it appears to my untrained eye that 2/3 of Americans want Universal Healthcare

      What does that look like in implementation?

      Medicare For All is generally unpopular among senior citizens. Medicare buy in is more appealing, but does little to curb price gouging in provision of care. State ownership/management of care facilities is easily subjected to scandals that cost political advocate their jobs (the VA being a classic modern example).

      So what’s the plan?

    • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
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      I have mixed feelings on this. If the entire world had access to free healthcare, chances are research and development would grind to a halt unless they also funded research and development. Taxpayers would need to be willing to pay a company hundreds of millions of dollars if they discovered a useful product.

      …it can work in theory, but I’m not sure if it would work in a democracy. The average voter would demand that money be spent on more immediately useful services. If it did work, however, we would save the billions of dollars pharmaceutical companies spend on lawyers and marketing.

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        …it can work in theory, but I’m not sure if it would work in a democracy.

        And yet many democracies have UHC… and publicly-funded research.

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        As opposed to now, where companies copyright and patent their medications and sell them ultimately to…taxpayers who pay them billions of dollars a year in just out of pocket costs, let alone the scheme that is the American private insurance/healthcare system.

        If taxpayers had to fund drug companies or research institutions for R&D without the insane middleman that is the private healthcare/insurance system, it would cost a fraction of what it does now.

        On top of that, this assumes that people won’t do research for the good of society vs becoming filthy rich, which is a false assumption driven by Capitalist propaganda. Remember that the ultra wealthy CEOs and executives of these drug companies aren’t the ones doing any of the actual work or research. That is all done by scientists and engineers, who make a decent living, but none of them are incredibly rich from it, classic Capitalist exploitation at work.

        Often times these drug companies (and the private equity firms that own them) don’t even primarily do R&D, they just purchase the patents and IP rights to drugs that are already on the market, and once they do that, they jack up the price often by hundreds of percent to increase their cashflow.

        That cost gets sent to the insurance companies, which of course, they pass on to consumers, raising our healthcare prices year after year.

        I want medical researchers, scientists, and engineers to make a good living, a very good living, their work literally saves and improves hundreds of millions of people’s lives worldwide. But you don’t need a CEO or executives, or private equity firms owning that space and making insane amounts of money, you just literally don’t.

        There are millions of very smart and passionate people around the world who want to do this kind of work because they enjoy it, and they want to make a difference. Providing an open and rigorous academic and scientific structure to study and practice this is all you need. That already exists today, many medical breakthroughs came from publicially funded research institutes, which is the way it should be.

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          You could fund the facilities, but how many people would be willing to get a doctorate in biological chemistry if the only available jobs were relatively low paying civil servants?

          Most of the researchers in the pharmaceutical industry were employed as minimum wage workers during their six years in college. We would have to completely overhaul the incentive structure if we expected colleges to replace the for profit industry.

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            biological chemistry

            fun fact: I have had a years-long interest into biochemistry since i was 12, and i want to study biology because of it, but i can’t; because i don’t have the time/money, because i need to get a job now to earn money, instead of spending another 6 years in school.

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        If the entire world had access to free healthcare, chances are research and development would grind to a halt unless they also funded research and development. Taxpayers would need to be willing to pay a company hundreds of millions of dollars if they discovered a useful product.

        I don’t see why it would. A company would still invest in research if they thought they had a chance to sell it to the healthcare system, for example. It wouldn’t be the first nor last time something like that happened, and the latter case isn’t too different from how it works already.

        Consider insulin, for example. Research into it and drugs for treatment of diabetes doesn’t happen exclusively in the US.

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        Penicillin was invented in a public university lab. We used to have a strong public research in the health sector worldwide.
        Then neo-liberalism managed to convince politic leaders to progressively shut down public research and subsidize more and more the private sector.

        https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/us-tax-dollars-funded-every-new-pharmaceutical-in-the-last-decade

        This is not unique to the US. Your taxes pay for R&D, then your insurance (or your wallet…) pays to get the drugs you subsidized. And the private sector does not need ginormous margins to stimulate private R&D spendings.

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    What really makes me chuckle is whenever someone tries to insist to me that Mexican men are chauvinists, and I have to remind them that not only did they elect a woman, but they elected a woman who is doing FDR shit and actually making people’s lives better.

    I’m jealous. The closest we got was Bernie and both parties swift-boated him.

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      They are horribly chauvinistic.

      Let’s play a game. The US elected Obama so they are not racist riiight?

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        I see the point you’re getting at, but this is too big of a debate for Saturday morning. :)

        Have a great day.

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          Ladies and gentlemen, white US liberals when confronted with their shitty conservative positions. Saving this- it’s a such a perfect encapsulation.

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            Landed and gentlemen, the troll who literally never makes a comment on this platform other than to try and demoralize a doomed society of millions of people. Torturing people like this is clearly all you ever think about. It’s pathetic and you desperately need mental help.

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            Come on, now, be fair, I love dunking on liberals as much as the next leftist, but “Mexican men aren’t chauvinists” is hardly a conservative position, as leftists aren’t we supposed to make the argument that no people are a monolith?

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              “You cant be a bigot if you have a [POC/LGBTQ/whatever else] friend” is certainly a hallmark of conservative discourse

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                chauvinism, excessive and unreasonable patriotism, similar to jingoism. The word is derived from the name of Nicolas Chauvin, a French soldier who, satisfied with the reward of military honours and a small pension, retained a simpleminded devotion to Napoleon. Chauvin came to typify the cult of the glorification of all things military that was popular after 1815 among the veterans of Napoleon’s armies. Later, chauvinism came to mean any kind of ultranationalism and was used generally to connote an undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs. The term chauvinism also may describe an attitude of superiority toward members of the opposite sex, as in male chauvinism. Some animal-rights advocates have used the term to indicate a similar attitude on the part of human beings toward other species, as in “species chauvinism.”

                According to this definition from Britannica, men, women, trans people, etc can also be chauvinist. Men can be male chauvinist, in that they think they are the “superior gender”. But that doesn’t exclude the concept of female chauvinism.

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                  The concept of a “woman chauvinist” is irrelevant. It literally does not matter. What’s going to happen, are women going to take over society and force men into servitude? Stop them from leaving the house without an escort? Make them give up their careers? 🙄

                  In a society that was built by men, for men, men’s chauvinism is a problem and an unconscious bias they all carry with them from a very young age. There’s a lifetime of unlearning that men need to do to not be chauvinists. Any man who has gone through this process to rid themselves of their chauvinism has no problem with statements like “men are chauvinists” because they know it’s true.

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        Agreed. And with sexism, the link is even weaker.

        America is only 15% black so it at least suggests that a good chunk of the other 85% were not too racist to elect Obama.

        But humanity is 52% women so in theory, women could elect a woman even if every man in the country was in fact chauvinist.

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        Correct, the major reason she won the elections is because she was supported by her predecessor. (There was another female candidate too!)

        We can’t ignore that since AMLO was in power he started a daily televised show that acts as state propaganda and one of his missions was to “continue the 4th transformation” as in “you need to vote for my party no matter who it is”.

        (US citizens will relate to the propaganda right now with the White House putting up press conferences almost daily to convince people that they are winning while trying to police which press is ‘good’ and which is ‘bad’)

        You can see the chauvinism in some of the criticisms coming to Claudia, I don’t agree with any of that misogynist bullshit but a lot of people are angry with her and the only thing they can say is “we won’t have another female president”.

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          Lol, yeah, like 70% approval rate, but I see your point. 30M people out of 100M voters are angry with her, I guess. I mean, they are a lot.

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        Did more white people voted for Obama too? Because in Mexico, more men voted her than women did, relatively speaking. Also, our first black president was elected like 200 years ago.

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    Good for Mexico! Let’s hope USA is past invading their Latin American neighbours when they elect Socialist leaders, though…

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    Can someone tell, is the president actually socialist or more just sain person who want to improve things? Like central-leftist, compared to far left wing socialist

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      I’d say she is a social democrat.

      … but to most Americans that is far left and thus labelled socialism because America is a very right wing country. Even the ‘left’ in America is basically a right wing party in most other western democracies.

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        This is what I was guessing. Coming from Finland i think even our right wing parties are socialist when looked from US

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      Why bother?
      Just fund the cartels and tell them the President is after them.

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    Just a reminder that her predecessor removed this universal access when it was called “Seguro Popular” to create the INSABI that was later renamed “IMSS-Bienestar” and was ultimately integrated into the regular IMSS due to them cutting funds for it in 2025 (she was in charge at this point).

    In any case, this barely helps anyone because even if we have ‘universal healthcare’ its quality is going down every year. There are no drugs (medicines) and not enough medical professionals to cover the demand and that has been a reality of anyone visiting an IMSS clinic.

    As usual, be critical of any head of state.

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    Since coming to power in 2024, Sheinbaum has sought to undo decades of damage caused by neoliberal policies, building on the work of the previous socialist government. She has pledged to build 1.8m new homes to tackle a housing shortage while strengthening tenants’ rights.

    Last year she announced plans to shorten the work week from 48 hours to 40 hours, while increasing the minimum wage by 13%, continuing a policy of regular hikes championed by her predecessor and mentor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador since 2018.

    “For years it was said that the minimum wage couldn’t go up,” she told a conference in December, “that it would cause inflation, that there would no longer be investment in the country, foreign investment.”

    Despite that, following a cumulative minimum wage increase of 154% since 2018, “we are at a record level of foreign investment,” she added.

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      Since coming to power in 2024, Sheinbaum has sought to undo decades of damage caused by neoliberal policies, building on the work of the previous socialist government. She has pledged to build 1.8m new homes to tackle a housing shortage while strengthening tenants’ rights.

      Meanwhile, when she was governing CDMX, she worked with Airbnb and it helped to gentrify even more sections for the city. There have been people forced out of homes they have lived in for decades due to this pressure.

      Last year she announced plans to shorten the work week from 48 hours to 40 hours, while increasing the minimum wage by 13%, continuing a policy of regular hikes championed by her predecessor and mentor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador since 2018.

      The people actually demanded this to be immediate, but they preferred to listen to business owners and are just reducing it 2 hours for each year, culminating to 40 hours in 2030.

      They didn’t change anything related to how many days we need to work each week, so employers will try to squeeze these hours into 6-day workweeks anyway. She argued that this was not part of the historical demand for a 40 hour work-week.

      Oh yeah and they EXTENDED the limit for extra-hours.

      “For years it was said that the minimum wage couldn’t go up,” she told a conference in December, “that it would cause inflation, that there would no longer be investment in the country, foreign investment.”

      Despite that, following a cumulative minimum wage increase of 154% since 2018, “we are at a record level of foreign investment,” she added.

      Well that’s true, but at the same time the cost for food has nearly doubled

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        How did she work with AirBnB? Your link does not explain your claim. About the work week it’s still better, though not desirable for you the way it was passed as a law. The last point about doubling food prices is just false and shows your true colors. Food is more expensive of course because inflation is growing, and grows probably faster than the last few years, but doubled on food? Sure, pal.

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          El Gobierno capitalino informa que estableció una alianza con la Organización de las Naciones Unidas para la Educación, la Ciencia y la Cultura (UNESCO) y la compañía Airbnb para convertir a la Ciudad de México en la Capital del Turismo Creativo en América Latina y en un destino global para nómadas digitales.

          Gobierno capitalino was headed by Claudia

          And yeah, some basic foods doubled even tripled their prices. You don’t even live here so I don’t care what you think I still have to pay for it

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            As I said yesterday, it didn’t explain anything, it just says that. Moreover, anyone could say she worked with UNESCO to pump CDMX as an attractive pole for digital nomads, too. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a bad situation with apartments skyrocketing prices, but that’s hardly something owed to her.

            And yeah, some products become expensive sometimes, but you said food doubled prices. As in 100% inflation in food, which is nuts.

            I do live here.

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              Are you for real? Un pinche kilo de tomate cuesta casi 80 pesos aca en el norte

              anyone could say she worked with UNESCO to pump CDMX

              Si claro cualquiera que trabajara con ella diria eso porque era la jefa de gobierno de la CDMX asi que claramente tenia control sobre esto

              Hazme el chingado favor literalmente ella firmo: https://www.laizquierdadiario.mx/Claudia-Sheinbaum-AirBnB-y-la-ciudad-mercancia

              No vives en realidad aqui? No sabes español? O de plano no sabes investigar nada?

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                Antier compré jitomate. 60 pesos el kilo en Walmart y hasta en el tianguis. 54 en el Chedrahui, en “martimiércoles” quizá hasta más barato, pero ese es mi punto. Sigues usando un caso particular para la comida en general. Si quieres ser serio, anda a ver cuánto se ha inflado la canasta básica. Como ves, sé de primera mano de qué hablas. No te gusta Sheinbaum, está bien. No es excelente, pero tampoco mames con tu “comida está al doble”. Por mi parte, el asunto de la vivienda lo pudo haber manejado mejor y hasta donde sé, una iniciativa de ley está en curso para regular esto.