I was outside the city a couple weeks ago and saw a lot of maga stuff. Maybe I should get like stickers or business cards for this site to leave places like that.
Been trying to get my mother to leave MAGA for over a year now. It’s actually caused me to not see my family for a very long time
Serious question. How will we EVER fully forgive and reconcile with these people? We have to give them outs for our sake, but after, I’m not sure.
I think Marge was right, national divorce
Above the golden M. Of course
Doubters gonna doubt, but I honestly do believe the time is coming where it will be hard to find any American who admits to having ever voted for Trump.
Oh, I’ll keep reminding the ones I know who did. One of them is a narcissist who cannot admit he has ever done anything wrong or apologize for it. I call him dad.
Welcome to my trauma dump.
This is going to be the problem. If the country is going to come together we have to be able to forgive and start building bridges together.
But I’ve watched Republicans say that too many times then stab us in the back by tripling down on partisanship I don’t see the path forward because I’m VERY much in the same boat.
I don’t have an answer to make it better unfortunately.
we have to be able to forgive and start building bridges together
This is a nice-sounding sentiment, but in practice it just means not prosecuting Republican crimes during the brief periods when Democrats have a small bit of power. I’d be happy to forgive Republicans … after they’ve been frog-marched to prison. Letting them off the hook has always meant they just come back worse than ever.
I mean… read the second part of my post. I’m not ready to forgive and most definitely not ready to forget.
I can forgive the ones who say “I don’t know what I was thinking”. I can forgive the ones who say “I was tricked” or “I was not paying attention” or “I believed he blah blah blah”. I can forgive the ones who are remorseful, and the ones who work to undue the damage they caused.
People like my father will never admit they were wrong, they will double down, they will tell me everybody is the same and we would have come to the same outcome. They will never admit they were wrong, they will never apologize, because they will always find an excuse to justify themselves.
I can forgive the ones who say “I don’t know what I was thinking”. I can forgive the ones who say “I was tricked” or “I was not paying attention” or “I believed he blah blah blah”. I can forgive the ones who are remorseful, and the ones who work to undue the damage they caused.
Nah.
First time around with Trump, sure.
Second time around. Anyone who was under 18 at the end of Trump’s first term are the only people that get the pass. I was a dumb kid in high school who didn’t pay attention either when I couldn’t vote. But anyone after, he wasn’t some “dark horse” or “outsider” or all the dumbass lies they sell.
But then again, I live in a state that’s been red over a decade, who voted in the least educated governor in the union, that is about to get rid of income tax “because it’s what Texas does” despite the fact our neighboring state did the same thing and nearly went insolvent until a Dem governor got elected for the first time in decades and fixed it, that our traitor of a Senator got voted as Senator before he finished his first term as AG despite campaigning as AG for not using it as a ladder to further political aspirations, then his protege did the EXACT same thing, and Hawley got re-elected. I’ve watched Republicans get shocked EVERY time they got fucked over, then promptly voted the same people who fucked them over because it’ll hurt someone else.
I’d even say the people who were remorseful and work to undo the damage… but #1 Republican before Trump, McConnell SPECIFICALLY ranted and raved about how guilty of Trump was of trying to overturn the election and that he wasn’t above the law… then did everything to stop justice. Republicans are only out for Republicans. If things get too bad they’ll dial back the damage just enough to stop hurting themselves, then start hurting again.
It’s why I can understand what we need to do to go forward as a nation is forgive… but I also cannot do it.
I thought that was going to be the outcome of the first presidency, but then they reelected him even after January 6th. He is still a king maker in this mid-term, all my hope is gone. Americans are hopeless.
It’s gonna be like how everybody says they hate Nickleback now.
They sold 50 million albums to somebody.
It was me, I spent generational wealth on buying as much merch and albums and concert tickets as I could from Nickelback. Nickelback is awesome!
dont worry guys, I’ll take the hit on this one
I thought that was gonna happen after Jan 6. But…. Here we are.
I’m just happy to see Americans using the correct “you’re” at this point.
They probably learned it at one of the elite universities everyone from around the globe comes to the US to attend.
There finally figuring it out……… 😜
Jesus crust.
Their*
Fucks sake.
It’s actually their’re.
woosh
Kinda thick, aintcha?
woosh indeed
Watt?
Their they’re now…don’t be hasty.
It’s not their they’re, it’s my they’re
Shouldn’t the Americanized version of “you’re” be spelled “yo’r”?
Hmm… Curious. 🤔
Edit: Didn’t think I needed to state that this was a joke. I was simultaneously playing on the Colour → Color and Centre → Center. It wasn’t that deep…
Ya’ll depending on the state.
EDIT: Thank you all for the grammar lessons. Seriously. I actually do enjoy learning about stuff like this!
The word “Y’all’d’nt’ve” (“You all should not have”) is used where I live with no sense of irony. Your friends do you a favor, and it’s a natural reaction.
Or y’alls, which could mean either your or you’re depending.
“Y’alls dog got out again,” or
“Y’alls really tryin mah patience”
Y’all is “you all”, the contraction occurs directly after the y.
The translation for this sign would be “y’all ain’t lonesome”.
spits on floor
Well that was uncalled for, sugar.
That might just work if any of them could read or decide how to feel on their own
with any luck they’ll confuse it with a McDonald’s commercial and follow instructions blindly
Mcfuckin’ had it
“I’m Hatin’ It!”
I think it’ll be the opposite, they will start reading the sign see the McDonalds and then suddenly their eating fries and nuggs waiting for Fox to tell them how to think about the world.
Maybe it’ll make them accidentally stop eating McDonald’s.
That’s right, idiots, stay in your cult. Once you get duped you become branded for life as a stupid cultist, so you may as well stay and fester in the only culture that will ever accept you. Get comfortable licking that boot, because you need community to live and we will never allow you to join ours, so don’t even think about it as an option.
…sarcasm, obviously. I hope.
With how badly they’ve all abused all existing social contracts, I can see how some might arrive at the conclusion of refusing to enter into any more with them.
I too understand it. I have spent a big part of my life feeling the same way, after I spent the first big part of my life being immersed in the cult and parroting a lot of the same abusive, authoritarian ideas.
After I got over the collectivized hatred, which included no small amount of self-hatred, I started to get more specific and practical about dismantling the systems that ensnare people in the house of mirrors of learned hatred and distrust. One of the specific practices I find helpful is finding cogs that want to come loose, and helping them come out completely. Other helpful people did that for me, and I try to pay it forward. I think this group is doing something similar.
I also think that grouping everyone who’s ever been a part of MAGA into the same “categorically irredeemable” group is inaccurate and counterproductive, and it forces people who want to leave to stay in, because they don’t see where else they can go. Cults are fragile, and public ones, like MAGA, cultivate that outside pressure by being heinous on purpose, and on behalf of the group, because it creates a societal debt that its victims feel they can never repay. Once someone becomes convinced that it’s too socially expensive to “come clean”, so to speak, they are trapped. The only way to get them out is to show them that they have somewhere, anywhere, else to go.
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Meanwhile if you drive down I-40 in Tennessee you’ll see billboard for the Trump Superstore
As an American, I can confidently say that despite the deep breath and eyeroll I just had, I, in fact, do not want to know what that is.
I’m surprised at how unriddled with bullet holes that sign is.
If Trump supporters all had good aim, he’d be dead.
I passed some farmer’s big “Trump 2024” sign once - it looked like it had been hit with a couple dozen small red… somethings. I kinda wished it had been from a paintball gun with enough to drip down & look like blood.
That does seem like a very effective ad.
I don’t think that it is directly aimed at MAGA (but also kinda). It is a link to talking points to help people you may care about leaving the cult.
That’s where, I love leopardsatemyface and I’ll always laugh, but I will genuinely be happy as people leave the culture and mind fog. Its acceptance and openness which will win people back, not demeaning them.
Do they deserve it? Absolutely, but I keep that at a meta level online. Individually I believe we have to be the bigger person and open our arms
One of my coworkers is like this, and it’s a small company. I keep having to remind myself that he’s a wage slave too.
I have a VERY hard time with this these people literally want me (a lesbian) to not exist. They have wished me dead so often that honestly I don’t have any empathy for them. Funny how so many of us are exposed to the same propaganda they are but don’t get sucked into the bullshit.
That’s why if they’re coming out of the fog we show welcoming, but I also agree there are hard lines. It means you’re giving up that hatred.
…For McDonalds.
I kid, but hopefully it helps some lost souls.
clicks on link
It’s goats.ex
This person interwebs
I was there, Gandalf…
“Look at this program!”
“It… can’t be, but… it is!”
I ain’t writing them off just yet.
Bout damn time.
sweet
Could it be more of a cult?
Unfortunately that seems to be the pattern with a lot of beliefs right now, especially ones that the rich have vested interest in ensuring spread.
AI bros just updated their AI doomsday timeline again, from 2026 to 2030. At some point you’d think they’d see the parallels with the “world is ending on this specific day” cults and the constant timeline shifting.
I thought Kurzweil predicted 2045?
As literacy, media literacy, numeracy, critical thinking, attention spans … all broadly worsen…
… amidst a backdrop of very serious collapse of material conditions on the ground…
Basically every time in history you get that combo of conditions, humans start making cults.
Its a kind of sociological coping mechanism, or maybe basically panic/stress response.
When people don’t have the tools to understand and evaluate reality, but people can very plainly tell tell that things are worsening, life is getting more tenuous… people will irrationally believe in anything that offers at least a real feeling of tribal belonging, identity, and that can also ideally either actually excercise force to secure material needs, or at the very least, make a convincing display that they could if they wanted to.
It’s not “right now” it’s always been that way.
Believing this is a new or temporary thing is wishful thinking.
