• pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Damn, it’s crazy that we let one guy decide these things. Seems like the kind of thing that should be determined by a large legislative body that holds the power over our nation’s budget and the ability to write laws. Weird we don’t have one of those.

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      Almost as if this one guy is just a figurehead for a larger political movement.

  • TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 days ago

    Another 35000 people lose their job thanks to Trump. People who also prevent forest fires. But that has never been in issue in the US, right?

    Right?

    RIGHT?!?

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      Idk. Is this even real? Is this a real thing that is happening? I guess it’s a meme insofar as it’s a very ridiculous, far-fetched, outrageous thing for the leader of a country to do. And yet, I genuinely don’t know whether to think that it’s true…

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    8 days ago

    This is so outrageous that I find it hard to believe. The cost of the entire US Forest Service must be minuscule, especially if you compare it to cost of waging unnecessary, illegal, and unethical wars all over the planet.

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      Yeah this is more of a re-org than an elimination. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/climate/forest-service-research-stations.html

      Still seems like it might cause problems but it’s not the catastrophic change some people are making it out to be. And the Forest Service isn’t just a bunch of tree-hugging conservationists their mission is basically the sustainable exploitation of US forests. So for that reason they are very important to industry.

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        It’s “just a reorg” where they shut down all the research labs (which can’t be moved because they’re located by the forests they study) and hand leadership to pro-logging lobbyists.

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      This is also the second time that he’s tried this. The first time was during his previous term, and though he was forced to reopen everything by the courts, the fact that he sold some of the federal land to (I think) oil companies was never acted upon, despite it being illegal to sell public land to corporate interests.

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      I’m sure this isn’t really about saving money. It’s about destroying the US Forest Service. That’s the direct goal.

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        In a few years: “These unkempt forests are a real eyesore, what if we sell the land to private entities”

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          Within three years: “These unkempt forests…"

          They’re going to try and steal as much of it as possible while Taco is in charge

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      It’s probably so they can destroy climate change research and distract people yet again from other atrocities. Oh and drill or whatever they want to do with the land.

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      It’s actually $9B a year…which I wouldn’t call “minuscule” like PBS was.

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        The point is Trump will never do anything that isn’t for deeply personal reasons. And he would never do anything solely to save money on the budget, he doesn’t care about that at all. So either he does this out of pure spite, because it is a “liberal” thing, or more likely he does it because he has been bribed by whatever industries are eager to turn all that forest into shortsighted profit.

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          Fine. But calling 9 billion dollars, an amount of money most people can’t even fathom, “minuscule” is pretty stupid.

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            In the federal budget context, that is literally a few dollars. It is super disingenuous to compare it to the budget of a single person.

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        Wildland Fire Management and the Wildfire Adjustment

        The largest share of FS appropriations goes to the WFM account. The WFM appropriation funds preparedness, or fire prevention, detection, equipment and training; wildfire suppression; and salaries and expenses.

        Overall, in FY2025, 51% of the agency’s discretionary appropriations, including supplemental appropriations, were provided for these two accounts (26% WFM, 25% wildfire adjustment).

        https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13101

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    Eh he is funneling money from everything he deems unnecessary (health, science, nature preservation, education, progressing human rights etc) to pockets of his buddies, Netanyahu and tech oligarchs.

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        It feels more like he is Netanyahu’s attack dog and some of the tech oligarchs with dad issues treat him like one. The others just lick his ass for free pass to do whatever the fuck they want. Of course you may ask “aren’t these the only modes of friendship that exists in Trump’s life” and you may be right…

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    Please provide sources with posts from prominent people. A lot of altered and fake posts tend to be spread.

    This looks like it may be one of them as only parts of the forest service are closing as far as a fast search can tell.

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    look at all the Palestinians that were saved because we didn’t elect a warmonger like Harris.

    this is an acceptable price to pay for saving all those children.

    /s

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          Ah, so you’re saying the Republicans hacked the voting machines so anyone who didn’t show up voted for Trump?

          Or are you saying they gained access to ancient Eldritch magics that did the same but on paper?

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            Hack the voting machines? They did it the old fashioned way by closing voting sites in high density cities, violent intimidation tactics to keep entire neighborhoods from voting, dismantling mail sorting machines, destroying ballots, etc. The voting machines were probably compromised too, yes.

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      Ya know, if the Democrats fucked off to conservative land and the Republicans fucked off to hell then the US could be a place where actual progressives are the opposition you could be voting for.

      And look at how pathetically weak the Democrats have been during all this. They wouldn’t have do fuck-all if Harris was elected. Ya’ll need to stop praising the knife because it’s quieter than the gun.

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        it’s always about the democrats this and the republicans that with you people.

        if I gave you the option between getting shot in the face by a Republican or getting slapped in the face by a democrat cock, you would probably choose getting dicked down by a progressive with HIV and blame getting infected because democrats refused to run a candidate with a smaller cock.

        y’all need to realize that you’re just as guilty as MAGA is for allowing Trump his second (and potential for third) term, along with all the horrid shit he’s been allowed to do.

        but you go on and keep bitching about democrats and railing against the machine you swear you’re not a part of. after all, you’re getting chewed up in it just like the rest of us.

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          Comparing genocide to a little slap in the face is for people who consider genocide to be morally equivalent to a little slap in the face.

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          Wow, that was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read. Why are you implying the only other option is a progressive with HIV? There have been plently of far better, progressive candidates in local, state/provincial, and federal elections/primaries in Canada and the US and I’m proud to have voted progressive because they have routinely shown themselves to be more responsible and representative of the working class and far less corrupt than the centrist and conservative options.

          If “actually does things that will genuinely help instead of being friendly with corporations and genocidal nations” is a bad thing for you then, man, you’re just a fundamentally broken person.

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            Why are you implying the only other option is a progressive with HIV?

            That’s how the pro-genocide-and-nothing-else center views anyone to the left of their god netanyahu.

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            Wow, that was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

            I’m honored. thank you.

            Why are you implying the only other option is a progressive with HIV?

            Because in the entire history of American politics progressives are avoided like they have a plague. nobody votes for them because the risk is too great that they won’t live up to the hype they build. everybody wants better, but everybody needs stability. you don’t get stability with progressives, you only get chaos followed by progress.

            …I’m proud to have voted progressive because they have routinely shown themselves to be more responsible and representative of the working class and far less corrupt than the centrist and conservative options.

            thank you for being so open about your choice. even knowing that your vote allowed a madman from taking over a country, slaughtering children in both Israel and Iran, even killing American civilians. ripping immigrant families apart, trafficking them across borders.

            well done!

            have the clap you deserve

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              “You only get chaos followed by…”

              Yup, complete moron. You don’t want stability, you want familiariaty. You would rather bathe in sewage instead of clean water because getting might make you a little chilly. If anything defines a centrist it’s their overwhelming cowardice.

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                You don’t want stability

                He wants stable support for genocide and doesn’t give a shit about anything else. Like all centrists.

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                you know what’s absolutely hilarious. I voted progressive in my local elections.

                I did that because I believe change can happen. however, I’m not so disillusioned as you as to think that it’s a wise decision to gamble on the fate of our country or the world on some green party dumbfuck that couldn’t negotiate a happy meal from a drivethru let alone a multi-trillion dollar economic treaty with the corporate economies of the world.

                Look, I get all the anger and hate you’re feeling. you probably feel guilty for letting all those Palestinian children die, not only but you probably feel really guilty for empowering a sadistic psychopath to blow up a school full of little girls. the countless other children and families that have been bombed to pieces. it’s terrible. it’s still your fault for not grasping what was really at stake before the presidential election.

                here’s the neat thing. you, unlike all those people your choice killed, are alive! that means you can still learn!

                good luck buddy. I know you can figure it out. we’re all counting on you… really…don’t fuck us again.

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                  Woof. Deflect all you want, it doesn’t change that your country is a result of ineffective centrists allowing conservatives to get away with murder, if they aren’t doing it themselves. Harris was still going to use your tax money to kill innocent children, she just wasn’t going to post about it on Truth Social and you would be able to tell yourself that she was the best of two options, and now you don’t need to care anymore. This shit happened when Biden got in, and Harris was right there saying she wouldn’t do anything differently.

                  I know ya’ll have a hard time learning, but how obvious do things need to be for you to see how bad things are?

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        If you look at what Biden accomplished in his term he actually did quite a bit for environmental protection.

        But even if Harris did do fuck all, it’d still be better than this

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          He also allowed the GOP to, once again, get away with literal treason and face no real consequences. Harris was his VP during it all, too. They do a little bit of good for the headlines but are functionally useless when it comes to addressing the major systemic issues that keep pushing that country to the right. Their pathetic complacency is a major reason why the far-right was able to get a foothold and they continue to show that they don’t really give a fuck.

          I’m not stupid, I do know that Biden’s administration did ok at a handful of things, it’s just wild that you believe that’s enough. It’s like saying you had a good day because your partner didn’t hit you as though that should be remarkable. Ya’ll’re in an abusive relationship and need to figure that shit out yesterday.

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            I don’t think it’s enough, but it is enough to vote for them over trump. If you feel otherwise I can only suspect you are privileged enough to not be effected by Trump’s actions, great for you, not great for the people being killed by ICE or blown up outside schools.

            If there was another viable option I absolutely would not have voted for Kamala, but there wasn’t so how is not voting supposed to be the better option?

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              I don’t think it’s enough, but it is enough to vote for them over trump.

              And yet the electorate didn’t. The left warned you and you interpreted it as petulance.

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              Yes, I am privileged. I still do not see even a shred of worth in allowing the situation to get even worse next time around. They call it “strategic” voting but there’s not an ounce of good strategy and planning in that, just reactionary fear driving a short-term mistake that has historically only snowballed into a worse and worse situation.

              I voted NDP here in Canada. People here would say that I threw away my vote, but in the end I used my vote to speak with my own voice and they freely gave their approval to a centrist government that is failing miserably and leading this country and whose approach is based in jerking off corporations at the expense of everyone else. The Democrats, like our Liberal Party here, are still far too confident that they’ll be able to run the same old “not the GOP” platform because they have decades of evidence to prove that that’s enough and after that they can do essentially whatever they want.

              Speaking on the topic of privilege, it must be nice to be able to pretend that a center-right government that continually allows the far-right to advance its interests, even when the center-right holds all the cards, is a reasonable alternative. People still die unnecessary deaths in a corrupt system but, unlike with the GOP in charge, it’s quiet enough you can pretend that it doesn’t exist.

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                Nah man, no pretending. But there is an evil and a lesser evil. I just don’t see any logic behind not voting for the lesser evil. It will benefit nobody and harm more people. I would vote for a 3rd party in a heartbeat if they had a good campaign run. It’s pretty easy to tell if a 3rd party has made any kind of a splash by election date. In this last US election there were no other options, period. The Democrats suck, I get it, but those that didn’t vote for them are making things worse.

                I generally believe it’s important for people to view third party options as viable, because really they are only not viable if we believe them to be. But to have a chance to win that kind of party needs an extraordinarily well spoken and revered leader. In this last election we didn’t have anyone that got the bill

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                  But there is an evil and a lesser evil.

                  The lesser evil should stop being worse than the previous lesser evil every fucking time.

                  The Democrats suck, I get it, but those that didn’t vote for them are making things worse.

                  Democrats chose losing policy. They knew it was losing policy and did it anyway.

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        They have been so incompetent and ineffective im starting to believe the whole “fake opposition” conspiracy might be true.

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          Even if it wasn’t true, they are so consistently operating in ways that make it functionally true that clearly their entire way of being is just bad. Intention doesn’t really matter if both options are the same level of utter failure.

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        Thank you. It’s rare that someone criticizes the Democrats AND acknowledges that a third of the country (MAGA) would have to die before things could get better.

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      Can always count on centrists to gloat that no one had the option to vote against the genocide that gives their lives meaning.

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    Even if Trump hadn’t raped children, being the exact opposite of Teddy Roosevelt would make him among the worst American presidents.

    The child-raping thing makes it considerably worse btw.

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      and because the base also supports it, because they have rapists in thier ranks, where its only place acceptable.