“Ok, then we will track you anyway server side by linking your account activity to your ip address, no cookies”
Cookies are such a 2010 tracking method.
Google uses browser profiling and IP triangulation to track you now. If you’re not defeating both of those, tell Big G that I said hi.
ip triangulation can be done by a 5 year old with ip-api.com and is really 1990s-2000s tracking, and browser profiling can be defeated with a hardened browser
Right, but you have to implement three countermeasures to defeat all three methods.
No cookies saved, hardened browser, and a VPN. Anything that doesn’t cover all three protects nothing.
there are wayyy more than 3, and a hardened browser and a good vpn or proxy will fix that
Three categories, not three as in only three specific things done.
“Me see.”
“Me think me understand things well enough.”
“Me can’t believe me going to say this, but…me reject your cookies.”
“Convenience is most effective form of coercion.”
Thank you. The proper wording in the comic bothered me on a fundamental level.
I just assumed that the glasses made Cookie Monster talk like that.
So it’s the Professor Hulk version of Cookie Monster?
What about the last scenes where he took the glasses off?
One of the benefits of firefox and it’s derivatives:
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/features/total-cookie-protection/
Yes sites can save cookies on your PC, but it stops sites from looking at each other’s cookies.
Wow that’s amazing I didn’t know that, and I’ve been using Firefox in like forever.
I just checked my browser settings, and sure there it was: edit menu -> settings -> privacy and security
And it was enabled just like the page you linked writes it’s supposed to be. 👍I have no idea when that feature was added, I never noticed any negative results from it. Everything works like it’s supposed to, like digital signature, banking, and a number of special sites that use cookies to make it easier to use them.
Nice to know I don’t always have to use private windows to avoid cookie snooping between sites.
Another win for Firefox! 😀 😎 👍Unfortunately, cookies are passé now. Have fun:
I think browsers need to start fighting back with fake intelligence.
Those two links are talking about fingerprinting.
Cookies can contain fingerprints, but they’re also used for a bunch of other things, like keeping you logged in, remembering your shopping cart rather than clearing it every page load, storing preferences, remembering if your device has a high DPI screen (so a fresh page load knows to serve higher quality images), etc. Anything where small amounts of data have to be persisted and shared across both the client-side and server-side. They’re not always evil.
If your device has a high DPI screen, I would hope they would be able to determine that each time rather than have to take up storage space on MY device recalling that fact.
I don’t see it on mobile unfortunately.
I see it on mine. Look at the top option underneath the Enhanced Tracking Protection menu (click it to open that menu). It is on by default - nice!
Ahhhhh I didn’t see that. The label isn’t clear if you’re skimming. Thanks!
Oh how things change
Personally I use consent-o-matic (which automatically refuse cookies) + Librewolf’s opt-in cookies. That’ll teach them
What do I do on mobile?
ublock, then the dropper option then select the prompt
He should be constantly enraged that they aren’t real cookies. He keeps getting tricked and finally snaps, letting the monster out.
“I’m not the monster here.”
Was going to ask OP to link the source (found here) until I checked the username against the URL and realized this is actually the OOP.
Then these sites start playing Bill Wurtz’s “How about I do it anyway?”.
I mean, apart from simply getting your digital fingerprint via other means, quite a lot of them hide the options so that you would have to painstakingly click/tap through a mountain of toggles.
I have had to do this with several Android games: You can kind of disable most cookie types with one toggle, EXCEPT the one that says “legitimate interest”. Since I wanted to know what exactly they might mean by that, I tapped the tiny question mark circle thing. Guess what: the tooltip just simply said something like ‘data that falls under our partner’s legitimate interest’. And then, if you want to disable it, the only way to do it is tap something like ‘Vendor options’, and then see about 117 vendors, and ~85 of those have a toggle next to their name. You have to click each and every one of those.
…until the next update, when this window comes up again, waiting for you to give up.
“legitimate interest” is a sketchy, unclear term. It’s not defined by any legislation.
There’s a type of cookie called “strictly necessary”. These are things that the site needs to work - for example, to keep you logged in, to remember your shopping cart, etc. Sites do NOT need to offer a opt out from these, and if they’re the only cookies the site uses, they don’t have to show a banner or cookie consent notice.
I think “legitimate interest” is really trying to trick people into thinking the cookies are “strictly necessary”, when in reality there’s some non-necessary tracking cookies lumped into the “legitimate interest” category.
I do wonder how much of my life I’ve wasted doing those cookie banners, but I guess I’ve wasted time doing dumber things.
I just open sites in private windows, but u/yaroto98 made a comment showing that using Firefox, you don’t have to anymore.
A lot of sites make it look difficult but you can often opt out of their ad and tracking cookies in 2 clicks. Usually there’s a “Save my choices” button that defaults to doing just this.
It’s not in their interest to make it clear.
I’m aware of that - I’ve gone through these way too many times. For example, if you go to kukuklok.com (just a timer with an alarm site), you’ll see what I’m talking about, and it’s just a few brackets. Some sites have way more of those.
I’m also aware I can save it, but
1: cookies can expire, and
2: whenever you open it on a new device, you can start overSorry, I don’t understand. On kukuklok.com , press Manage Settings and then Save Settings. Avoid the Recommended button. Job done?
When you click Manage Settings, you get this panel:
If you Save Settings, then you allow 148-666 of their partners to access your data. Unless you untick every single “legitimate interest” box, as well.
What’s the difference between limited interest and consent? The latter is unticked by default.
Yes. This is what my topmost comment was about. It’s never explained clearly.
I look at itt the other way. The EU’s cookie rules require websites to allow opt-out in no more than 2 clicks. I think they’re just trying to confuse and wear us down.
I will continue to 2-click my way through these things and not worry too much. If they wanted to break the rules then they can do it all anyway and ignore my clicked preferences.
See comment by u/yaroto98
Firefox is your savior.
Great, I didn’t notice that, thanks. While it doesn’t solve my problem with the android apps, it can make my life less annoying on the Web. I’m using FF already, just haven’t installed everything I should yet.
In this world of false plenty… Even the cookie monster has learned restraint.
God help us all.
I eat my own ass worth of cookies every day abd I hardly ever bothered to what it cones to be in as it were to be, even.
