Then these sites start playing Bill Wurtz’s “How about I do it anyway?”.
I mean, apart from simply getting your digital fingerprint via other means, quite a lot of them hide the options so that you would have to painstakingly click/tap through a mountain of toggles.
I have had to do this with several Android games: You can kind of disable most cookie types with one toggle, EXCEPT the one that says “legitimate interest”. Since I wanted to know what exactly they might mean by that, I tapped the tiny question mark circle thing. Guess what: the tooltip just simply said something like ‘data that falls under our partner’s legitimate interest’. And then, if you want to disable it, the only way to do it is tap something like ‘Vendor options’, and then see about 117 vendors, and ~85 of those have a toggle next to their name. You have to click each and every one of those.
…until the next update, when this window comes up again, waiting for you to give up.
“legitimate interest” is a sketchy, unclear term. It’s not defined by any legislation.
There’s a type of cookie called “strictly necessary”. These are things that the site needs to work - for example, to keep you logged in, to remember your shopping cart, etc. Sites do NOT need to offer a opt out from these, and if they’re the only cookies the site uses, they don’t have to show a banner or cookie consent notice.
I think “legitimate interest” is really trying to trick people into thinking the cookies are “strictly necessary”, when in reality there’s some non-necessary tracking cookies lumped into the “legitimate interest” category.
A lot of sites make it look difficult but you can often opt out of their ad and tracking cookies in 2 clicks. Usually there’s a “Save my choices” button that defaults to doing just this.
I’m aware of that - I’ve gone through these way too many times. For example, if you go to kukuklok.com (just a timer with an alarm site), you’ll see what I’m talking about, and it’s just a few brackets. Some sites have way more of those.
I’m also aware I can save it, but
1: cookies can expire, and
2: whenever you open it on a new device, you can start over
I look at itt the other way. The EU’s cookie rules require websites to allow opt-out in no more than 2 clicks. I think they’re just trying to confuse and wear us down.
I will continue to 2-click my way through these things and not worry too much. If they wanted to break the rules then they can do it all anyway and ignore my clicked preferences.
Great, I didn’t notice that, thanks. While it doesn’t solve my problem with the android apps, it can make my life less annoying on the Web. I’m using FF already, just haven’t installed everything I should yet.
Then these sites start playing Bill Wurtz’s “How about I do it anyway?”.
I mean, apart from simply getting your digital fingerprint via other means, quite a lot of them hide the options so that you would have to painstakingly click/tap through a mountain of toggles.
I have had to do this with several Android games: You can kind of disable most cookie types with one toggle, EXCEPT the one that says “legitimate interest”. Since I wanted to know what exactly they might mean by that, I tapped the tiny question mark circle thing. Guess what: the tooltip just simply said something like ‘data that falls under our partner’s legitimate interest’. And then, if you want to disable it, the only way to do it is tap something like ‘Vendor options’, and then see about 117 vendors, and ~85 of those have a toggle next to their name. You have to click each and every one of those.
…until the next update, when this window comes up again, waiting for you to give up.
“legitimate interest” is a sketchy, unclear term. It’s not defined by any legislation.
There’s a type of cookie called “strictly necessary”. These are things that the site needs to work - for example, to keep you logged in, to remember your shopping cart, etc. Sites do NOT need to offer a opt out from these, and if they’re the only cookies the site uses, they don’t have to show a banner or cookie consent notice.
I think “legitimate interest” is really trying to trick people into thinking the cookies are “strictly necessary”, when in reality there’s some non-necessary tracking cookies lumped into the “legitimate interest” category.
I do wonder how much of my life I’ve wasted doing those cookie banners, but I guess I’ve wasted time doing dumber things.
I just open sites in private windows, but u/yaroto98 made a comment showing that using Firefox, you don’t have to anymore.
A lot of sites make it look difficult but you can often opt out of their ad and tracking cookies in 2 clicks. Usually there’s a “Save my choices” button that defaults to doing just this.
It’s not in their interest to make it clear.
I’m aware of that - I’ve gone through these way too many times. For example, if you go to kukuklok.com (just a timer with an alarm site), you’ll see what I’m talking about, and it’s just a few brackets. Some sites have way more of those.
I’m also aware I can save it, but
1: cookies can expire, and
2: whenever you open it on a new device, you can start over
Sorry, I don’t understand. On kukuklok.com , press Manage Settings and then Save Settings. Avoid the Recommended button. Job done?
When you click Manage Settings, you get this panel:
If you Save Settings, then you allow 148-666 of their partners to access your data. Unless you untick every single “legitimate interest” box, as well.
What’s the difference between limited interest and consent? The latter is unticked by default.
Yes. This is what my topmost comment was about. It’s never explained clearly.
I look at itt the other way. The EU’s cookie rules require websites to allow opt-out in no more than 2 clicks. I think they’re just trying to confuse and wear us down.
I will continue to 2-click my way through these things and not worry too much. If they wanted to break the rules then they can do it all anyway and ignore my clicked preferences.
See comment by u/yaroto98
Firefox is your savior.
Great, I didn’t notice that, thanks. While it doesn’t solve my problem with the android apps, it can make my life less annoying on the Web. I’m using FF already, just haven’t installed everything I should yet.