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    Who cares what these naysayers think, this data center will create as many as 26 new jobs!

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      And think of the extra tax revenue!*

      *only from the income of those 26 people, because the data center business itself will get huge tax breaks for building in our state

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        Only from 5 of those people, because 21 of them will live in San Francisco and visit the new data center once a year or so.

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          And those 5 are janitorial staff, who are paid minimum wage and thus are not making enough to be taxed.

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      I know you joke and I did have a chuckle. The tech jobs offered by these projects are so few and far between it is truly laughable.

      We’re fighting a data center construction by Google in our area. One of the major obstacles is that blue collar workers, electrical hvac etc, all believe this will bring them new jobs and continued work in maintenance of the facility over the years.

      They aren’t necessarily wrong on that point, and it’s a challenge to convince them that infrasound noises they can’t hear will make them sick over time.

      I wish they were this excited about building and maintaining solar and wind projects instead of data center generators, but alas, many of them are constantly subjected to propaganda painting green tech in a negative light.

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    It was fun explaining to my wife how resources in a public utility are pooled, and if someone comes along and takes 90% from the pool, the price on the remaining 10% goes up exponentially

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    Does anyone actually know the stated purpose of this project? It surely can’t just be for LLMs but I haven’t been able to find anything.

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      Based on what Oleary said in his interview with Tucker Carlson, he doesn’t have a tenant yet. So billionaires are building these datacenters with the expectation that hyperscalers like Google, Amazon, Microsoft will be renting that compute from them.

      Will that actually come to fruition in a way that justifies the billions invested? I guess we will see.

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      It’s weird that it’s difficult to identify. But there already is an NSA data center in utah, so maybe it is for the us government. You would think someone would have learned their lesson on how that one turned out?

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      The only way this kind of massive facility can be profitable is if its builders expect to use it to steal the jobs of legions of white collar workers. That’s literally the only way this is profitable.

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    Utah. Don’t they have boatloads of those 2A idiots out there, that always scream about how they will stop evil governments when it happens?

    Well? We’re waaiiting

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    Fucking mormons, man.

    We might have to get really violent to stop this. Tear down the building. (Okay i’m not in america but if i had money to spend on flying over there i would be doing stuff)

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    Twice the size of manhattan? Where are we getting this number from? Thats not realistic in any sense. Just three centers place apart from each other and were counting all the deadspace in-between? Why do they need the space in-between?

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      They claim the data center is on 62 square miles. Manhattan is 33.6 square miles.

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        So that Manhattan figure includes 10.8 sq miles of water.

        Regardless of the building footprint, the 40,000 acres limit of disturbance is impactful to local watersheds. Not to mention the plan it to create a (useless, IMO) device that consumes two-fold the energy as the entire state.