This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago
Are you referring to North Korea? The DPRK has a cult of personality thing going on, for sure. But that hadn’t developed yet, by the time of the Korean war. Rather the DPRK was a really quite vibrant multi-party Socialist democracy.
The overwhelming dominance of the WPK, and the ostensible sidelining of other parties and organizations in the Supreme People’s Assembly only starts to occur after the war. With the genocidal bombing of the Korean peninsula by the United States, and subsequent economic and diplomatic isolation, being the primary engine which drove political centralization.
Compare the results of 1948 SPA election results with those of 1957.
The person you responded to was talking about the United States’ war in Korea:
They utterly destroyed the North of Korea during their genocidal anti-communist war, for example
You responded with:
“This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago” - a totally normal leftist response to a war crime happening today
The DPRK, in no way, resembled a monarchy prior to the Korean war, like you implied. The DPRK developing such a centralized cult of personality, and took up it’s particular foreign policy positions, as a direct result of US war and occupation.
The US and Israel indiscriminately bombing civilian targets in Iran with the explicit intention of inducing some sort of societal collapse is absolutely comparable to the Korean war.
The response of Iran to dig in its heels, appoint the previous Supreme Leader’s son as his successor, and take up such an aggressive posture, is also a direct result of US intervention, and has clear parallels to the DPRK example.
These countries, like Iran and North Korea, are the way that they are, not in a vacuum. Not because They’re ontologically evil. But because they’re responding to genuinely horrific conditions imposed upon them by the United States.
Whatever we might feel about them. Even if I don’t like that the DPRK has developed this cult of personality around the Kims, that fact is secondary to the material reality of what has caused this state of affairs in the first place.
You’re not getting dragged in this thread because “Le Stoopid Takies Luv Teh Commie Monarchy!1!” But because you’re missing the forest for the trees.
If you actually care about the People of the DPRK, and ending the Kim’s cult of personality, then you should want a formal end to the Korean War, the withdrawal of all US military assets from the peninsula, and for there to be UN mediated talks between North and South Korea about how they might be able to integrate, politically, socially, and economically.
Similarly, if you actually care about the people of Iran, and the wider middle east, you should want an end to this war, withdrawl of all US military bases from the region, the dissolution of Israel, in favor of a multi-ethnic Palestine with right of return and reparations for all Palestinians, and a laying down of arms for all Iranian-backed non-state actors who would no longer need to fight in the absence of Israel.
Complaining about Tankies online does none of this
The person who responded did not choose North Korea out of the blue. They chose North Korea because they like North Korea today. America and/or Israel have committed more recent genocides and more egregious genocides. Even literally in the 1950s.
That’s the weird thing. And weird is all it was, not even incorrect. That that was the first thing to mind is ridiculous. All the rest of it is just tankurbation
My original question was “what ethnicity (am I in favour of genociding)” where the bracketed implication involves 40th percentile reading skills. Assuming you meet that criterion, you might get the second sentence meant that murdering every last YouTube Communist would not count as an answer, as it’s not an ethnicity.
Ach bhfeider an ceist seo ró deachar don paiste iPad Mhericáin
Fuck off lib. You’ll be saying this exact same thing in a few years about Iran and pretending that the United States of Pissreal was right in doing what it’s doing today.
Your obnoxious settler states won’t last long. Count the days
I doubt that. See, if you actually lived in ireland and wanted to complain about a monarchy, why make up one on the other side of the world, when an actual monarchy is occupying part of your country?
Maybe you actually live in a certain fake country whose name starts with “I”? That is at war with a certain real country whose name also starts with “I”?
Okay, I get it, you’re european. Living off of imperial usa plunder, spreading the usa’s lies for personal benefit. It’s always the same with the imperialists.
“This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago”
Yeah because famously only the DPRK’s ruling family was in North Korea; when you attack a country that everyone cries about and calls a dictatorship, famously only the ruling people are hurt by it (and it’s spelled ‘favorite’; what are you English?)
to a war crime happening today
If you have the mental capacity to understand that tons of innocent people get hurt by these demonic bombing campaigns, try and see if you can stretch it further to imagine what it would look like when you do it to countries in Asia as well (do some warming up exercises first, you don’t want to hurt yourself)
What a way to interpret a comment that said nothing like that. They just pointed out how the comprehensive bombing campaign resembles the level of destruction done to another sovereign nation.
It’s always amazing to me how libs have to constantly make up interpretations and arguments to fight against. One of the reasons I left piefed was that people kept yelling at me for saying things that I never said.
Like, I get that liberalism is openly failing right now, but maybe do some self-analysis on why that is, rather than building strawmen.
“This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago” - a totally normal leftist response to a war crime happening today
Are you referring to North Korea? The DPRK has a cult of personality thing going on, for sure. But that hadn’t developed yet, by the time of the Korean war. Rather the DPRK was a really quite vibrant multi-party Socialist democracy.
The overwhelming dominance of the WPK, and the ostensible sidelining of other parties and organizations in the Supreme People’s Assembly only starts to occur after the war. With the genocidal bombing of the Korean peninsula by the United States, and subsequent economic and diplomatic isolation, being the primary engine which drove political centralization.
Compare the results of 1948 SPA election results with those of 1957.
Cool. Not sure what it has to do with North Korea being their favourite monarchy today though?
The person you responded to was talking about the United States’ war in Korea:
You responded with:
The DPRK, in no way, resembled a monarchy prior to the Korean war, like you implied. The DPRK developing such a centralized cult of personality, and took up it’s particular foreign policy positions, as a direct result of US war and occupation.
The US and Israel indiscriminately bombing civilian targets in Iran with the explicit intention of inducing some sort of societal collapse is absolutely comparable to the Korean war.
The response of Iran to dig in its heels, appoint the previous Supreme Leader’s son as his successor, and take up such an aggressive posture, is also a direct result of US intervention, and has clear parallels to the DPRK example.
These countries, like Iran and North Korea, are the way that they are, not in a vacuum. Not because They’re ontologically evil. But because they’re responding to genuinely horrific conditions imposed upon them by the United States.
Whatever we might feel about them. Even if I don’t like that the DPRK has developed this cult of personality around the Kims, that fact is secondary to the material reality of what has caused this state of affairs in the first place.
You’re not getting dragged in this thread because “Le Stoopid Takies Luv Teh Commie Monarchy!1!” But because you’re missing the forest for the trees.
If you actually care about the People of the DPRK, and ending the Kim’s cult of personality, then you should want a formal end to the Korean War, the withdrawal of all US military assets from the peninsula, and for there to be UN mediated talks between North and South Korea about how they might be able to integrate, politically, socially, and economically.
Similarly, if you actually care about the people of Iran, and the wider middle east, you should want an end to this war, withdrawl of all US military bases from the region, the dissolution of Israel, in favor of a multi-ethnic Palestine with right of return and reparations for all Palestinians, and a laying down of arms for all Iranian-backed non-state actors who would no longer need to fight in the absence of Israel.
Complaining about Tankies online does none of this
God what a screed for 8 valuable words.
The person who responded did not choose North Korea out of the blue. They chose North Korea because they like North Korea today. America and/or Israel have committed more recent genocides and more egregious genocides. Even literally in the 1950s.
That’s the weird thing. And weird is all it was, not even incorrect. That that was the first thing to mind is ridiculous. All the rest of it is just tankurbation
genocide supporters get the woodchipper
What genocide would that be?
YouTube Communist isn’t an ethnicity
may your death be as long and agonizing as possible
Hey look, a yank wishing a socialist death. They really get it deep into your psyche don’t they?
“All the koreans we genocided were youtubers” is the dumbest and most anachronistic genocide denial I ever saw
Does acting this dumb take work or does it come naturally?
I don’t know, you’d need to tell me.
Or do you really believe koreans aren’t real humans? Most yankees are rabid dehumanizers after all.
My original question was “what ethnicity (am I in favour of genociding)” where the bracketed implication involves 40th percentile reading skills. Assuming you meet that criterion, you might get the second sentence meant that murdering every last YouTube Communist would not count as an answer, as it’s not an ethnicity.
Ach bhfeider an ceist seo ró deachar don paiste iPad Mhericáin
Fuck off lib. You’ll be saying this exact same thing in a few years about Iran and pretending that the United States of Pissreal was right in doing what it’s doing today.
Your obnoxious settler states won’t last long. Count the days
Ah yes, my settler state, Ireland.
Wait
I doubt that. See, if you actually lived in ireland and wanted to complain about a monarchy, why make up one on the other side of the world, when an actual monarchy is occupying part of your country?
Maybe you actually live in a certain fake country whose name starts with “I”? That is at war with a certain real country whose name also starts with “I”?
Nil fhaois agam can sórt scoil ufásach a bhí agat, ach bfhéidir sé ró maith a cur ceist faoin thógant an argaid ar ais?
Okay, I get it, you’re european. Living off of imperial usa plunder, spreading the usa’s lies for personal benefit. It’s always the same with the imperialists.
Ah yes. Ireland’s imperial plunder. What was that about my history again?
God you libs are insufferable
Aw, you’re all here. How nice for you
Yeah because famously only the DPRK’s ruling family was in North Korea; when you attack a country that everyone cries about and calls a dictatorship, famously only the ruling people are hurt by it (and it’s spelled ‘favorite’; what are you English?)
If you have the mental capacity to understand that tons of innocent people get hurt by these demonic bombing campaigns, try and see if you can stretch it further to imagine what it would look like when you do it to countries in Asia as well (do some warming up exercises first, you don’t want to hurt yourself)
I’m Irish, but I don’t expect you to understand enough about countries that aren’t talked about on Google Videos as much as Jucheland
most historically literate mick
disgusting that an Irish person is so ignorant about the crimes of settler colonialism you spineless imperialist running dog
“Anyone who hasn’t based their political opinions on my extremely niche online bubble is ignorant”
Hey this tankietranslator saves so much time
Remind me what North Korea and Ireland have in common? It will be handy for my Irish history exams 30 years ago
In one, you pay rent to live, while the other one lives rent-free in your head
Get it? Rent-free
Because they got rid of the parasitic landlords
Have no fun paying rent to parasites, br*tish monarchy bootlicker
What a way to interpret a comment that said nothing like that. They just pointed out how the comprehensive bombing campaign resembles the level of destruction done to another sovereign nation.
It’s always amazing to me how libs have to constantly make up interpretations and arguments to fight against. One of the reasons I left piefed was that people kept yelling at me for saying things that I never said.
Like, I get that liberalism is openly failing right now, but maybe do some self-analysis on why that is, rather than building strawmen.
Yes everything to the left of supporting North Korea is liberalism
May you live to vote for as many actual socialists and communists as I have.
There are a disturbing amount of people who just can’t read and will just make up what they think you said to fill in the blanks of their skimming
And the first one that came to mind was fucking North Korea, because that’s a totally normal, not terminally online thought process for a socialist
So your first thought was “Lets mock this person for bringing up a relevent historical point”?
lol, what a tool
Ok buddy