• Xell22@lemmy.world
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      I caught it through NPR maybe a couple weeks before it happened, and some science YouTubers were hype about it, but other than that I caught very little coverage. Not a lot mentioned on here that I saw til the day of or the day before. Not that it wasn’t talked about here before that, but just what I noticed.

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      I don’t know, we need to do a better job of advertising this stuff if a lot of people don’t know about it. This is one of the few decent things the U.S. is doing.

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    They launched the integrity of the USA off the planet, so it won’t bother them anymore for a few days.

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    whew. i’ve rolled the dice on my life, but i’ve never gotten on a boeing spacecraft. and the shitter’s already clogged.

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      SLS is mostly designed by Lockeed-Martin and NASA SRC. Boeing was a private contractor too though. This is also the first space toilet we’ve put in a spacecraft and exactly why we’re doing this test flight.

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        Right, my mistake. Shitter is clogged tho. Seriously. I know how to design a clogproof shitter (you need a mashing stick) and look what they did.

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          Space toilets are complicated. They don’t have gravity assisting the flush. You’d be surprised how even simple stuff we take for granted on Earth is complex when you take away gravity.

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    What’s the purpose of this mission? Are the resources spent on the mission and the pollution caused by it worth the purpose?

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      Absolutely worth it. This is a test mission equivalent to something like apollo 8. A dry run for going to the moon and actually landing it.

      I’d wager it would be incredibly unsafe to go to the moon without a mission like this.

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        Absolutely worth it. This is a test mission equivalent to something like apollo 8. A dry run for going to the moon and actually landing it.

        land on the moon to do what? You said it’s absolutely worth it so i expect you to absolutely know what this mission is about.

      • NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I agree that these kinds of missions are needed but this isn’t really comparable to Apollo 8. Apollo 8 made it into lunar orbit, this one is just doing a fly by. In a lot of other ways it’s an improvement. Much safer, carrying more people in comfier conditions with better video cameras and even bringing women and non-americans. Not just test pilots either, but actual scientists. It’s a representation of what’s changed since Apollo for both better and worse. NASA has much less of the USA’s budget than it did for Apollo, and things took much longer. It’s also been stated that the next mission won’t make it to the surface as it was originally planned, but is instead going to be testing the lunar Landers in lunar orbit. They are relying on Blue Origin and SpaceX to not just build but also launch and transport the Landers into lunar orbit. It’s very different to how things were done back then. If this was like the Apollo programme and they started at the same time we would have landed multiple times by now probably some years ago. Apollo really was a crash development program.

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        This mission will at least help bring space and science back into the mainstream and shut down flat earther kooks.

        If you want to bring space and science back into the mainstream you want to fix media not to make useless space missions.

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    Please don’t let it be cancelled and returned early because of a toilet That would just be too much. This is the first thing that has made me legitimately excited since having to unexpectedly say goodbye to my soul-dog last month. I need this, dammit.

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      How exactly do you think they’d return prematurely? Hit the reverse button?

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        Its the entire reason they did a full orbit before firing the lunar injection burn, so that if something was wrong they could jettison the service module and perform a deorbit burn for an early splashdown in the pacific.

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    Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even ontopic.

    Going back to the moon is still an engineering feat, even if we’ve done it before. That was a generation ago, and all of those engineers are retired or about to.

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      I don’t see the point of sending people to the moon or Mars. It will always be insanely expensive to do anything there, always. What is there to discover that can’t be done with robots? Doing it for the poetic sake of doing it--“going where no man has gone before”-- seems impractical and wasteful.

      Yes, we’ve done it in the past, exploring, that doesn’t mean we must keep doing it as it becomes more impractical, and with what benefits, exactly? Exploiting whatever resources are there? Is that really what we should be doing?

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        The moon is a good stopping off point for the rest of the solar system. Launching interplanetary missions from the moon is much easier assuming a moon base exists

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          Why waste billions when we can waste trillions!

          you guys realize NASA probes have already gone beyond the solar system?

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          Yeah, why do things! Let’s just sit on our ass and stagnate!

          Let’s do the same thing over and over again and call it progress! Next time you are in a hospital watching a loved one dying of cancer, you can tell them how many times we flew around the moon!

          We can’t breathe, the earth is on fire…let’s do another moon victory lap!

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        Im on the same page. I feel we should concentrate on discovery with probes or rovers and such and automation. trying to mine something robotically on an asteroid. if we can do that then see if we can smelt it. See if we can create fuel in space and such. I don’t think we will progress at all till we can be sourcing and manufacturing in space.

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            if thats the case then going into space is rediculous because if we at some point can’t source and build our there then there is no future out there.

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      AFAIK, the service module is European, built by the ESA, so this is not 100% an American accomplishment.

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      Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now?

      So you concede this is all about distraction.

      Let’s discover antibiotics again!

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      I’m surprised that Trump didn’t sign an EO declaring that it was now the Trump space mission rather than Artemis II.

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        I don’t care what we call it, as long as we keep funding the science and engineering. The amount of people who don’t understand why we should do this stuff is astounding. And I’m honestly not the best at articulating why we should do it.

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      I mean I kinda see manned missions as pointless. I would like us to remotely create destinations before going through the added expense of people and I think the technology gains would be bigger.

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            I’m going to ignore the obvious Kindergarten joke (which I’ve made myself).

            I would be happy to send a probe to Uranus. We know a lot less about the outer planets bcz we’ve really only done a few flybys of them.

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              The kindergarten joke was the entire point of the comment.

              In your rush to get mean dig in on the previous commenter, you willfully misunderstood or misinterpreted their point.

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      Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even on topic.

      My friend, the toilet was clogged on the rocket.

      Toilet= shitty

      Seems on topic to me

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    Very often, I was like “I don’t think I need to watch this shuttle launch, they might have to scrub it” and then they’d actually launch and I was was like “damn, I should have watched that shuttle launch”.

    So I was like “naaah, I don’t think I need to watch this launch, they might scrub it” and now it looks like they’ve launched and I was like “shit, I fell for that again, I’m really stupid”

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      The shuttle is Lucy holding the football and you live in a Charlie Brown world. ✌

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      If I’ve learned anything from realistic space fiction, it’s that they won’t find any up there.

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        we can also just look at who are currently the faces of the private space race, and their beliefs and how they run their companies

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      Or rather, what scientific benefits will this one prestige mission bring compared to all the other “boring” projects whose funding was cut for this?

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      I’m pretty sure they are doing some studies into immune systems in space, stress/sleep/cognition of astronauts and all that. From what I’ve read in the papers they will be taking regular saliva samples in preparation to do a lunar south pole mission… where they are worried about radiation? I dunno the specifics this is arm chair science on my part. I’m sure that one day when we finally send a man to uranus they can sample his saliva and figure out what’s going on down there if you know what I mean.

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        I’m pretty sure they are doing some studies into immune systems in space,

        none of that relevant to disease on earth.

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          How the fuck do you get that? We already have studies from the ISS which investigate the role of gravity in bacteriophage infections, which may be used to develop advanced anti-bacterial drugs

          But SaveTheTuaHawk knows better than all those microbiologists don’t they

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      It’s mostly about testing the vessel used, for future actually useful missions.

      There are some things they’re doing, but it’s scientifically not very much they couldn’t do with probes.

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        If it’s just to test the equipment why risk the lives of the astronauts?

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          Because future missions might also be manned. Better to risk small missions first to iron out the kinks than to have a big problem later that could have been noticed by you know, testing the vessel.

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          Because they need to sell this porkbarrel to the public.

          Read the comments…we would rather send a few people to a dead rock than cure diseases.

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              It’s not one or the other with spaceflight and curing diseases

              It is in 2025 onwards. The country is $39T in debt, tens of billions got funneled to SpaceX on a failed Mars project, and in the same year, $35B gets cut from NIH.

              Lucky for Trump, you guys have you heads so far up your asses looking at rockets and shiny things, no one will notice.

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            Science from space has been used plenty of times to help advance medicine though, along with plenty of other areas. And the thing about it is, you never know what you’re going to discover until you actually discover it.

            NASA budget is 3% of the US military budget, maybe focus complaints where it’s actually warranted.

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              We already know how to build houses or grow food, yet we still have a housing crisis and famines around the world.

              What good will these potential cures bring? We already have cures for many many diseases, why are those diseases still existing?

              Any potential cures from this will ultimately be owned by the same corpos that own current cures/tech. And it will be sold back to the people for hundred of thousands of dollers in order to justify their huge “R&D” costs.

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        The moon could serve as the launch point for further exploration of the solar system. Off the top of my head, the big benefit of that would be asteroid mining.

        To me that’s the biggest draw of developing our local spaceflight capabilities. Mining on earth is a gigantic environmental issue. If we could do that in space where the ores are already partially exposed, that would be awesome.

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          Off the top of my head, the big benefit of that would be asteroid mining.

          Science fiction is fun but get serious.

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            There are companies already developing the tech to do this.

            ∙	AstroForge
            ∙	Karman+
            ∙	TransAstra
            ∙	Asteroid Mining Corporation (AMC)
            ∙	Origin Space​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​