Prime Minister Mark Carney would not say when asked whether China’s treatment of the Uyghurs amounted to genocide – as the House of Commons declared several years ago – but acknowledged the Asian country was “rightly called out” for its conduct toward this minority in the past.
Speaking to reporters Tuesday at an unrelated news conference in Quebec, Mr. Carney was asked whether he agreed with the [Canada’s] 2021 House of Commons motion on genocide.
He declined to say but noted “there are fundamental issues in terms of China’s treatment of the Uyghurs in the past, and they’ve been rightly called out.”
Mr. Carney is still navigating the fallout from comments from new Liberal MP Michael Ma who last week cast doubt on reports of forced labour in China. Mr. Ma, who defected from the opposition Conservatives in December, has since apologized for his statements.
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Mr. Ma sparked a backlash last Thursday after he challenged the existence of forced labour in China during a meeting of the Commons industry committee, which is examining Mr. Carney’s deal to allow 49,000 Chinese-made electric vehicles into Canada at a low tariff rate.
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Last week, Margaret McCuaig-Johnston, a senior fellow at the Graduate School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Ottawa, had told the Commons industry committee Thursday that electric vehicles (EV) are being built with Chinese aluminum products made by slave labourers in Xinjiang. A 2024 Human Rights Watch report also said major automakers including Tesla, BYD, GM, Toyota and Volkswagen are drawing aluminum from supply chains linked to Uyghur forced labour in Xinjiang.
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Uyghurs and other Turkic minorities in Xinjiang, a region some call East Turkestan, have faced years of repression, forced internment and coerced labour under Beijing, according to rights groups. A 2022 report from the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights said China has committed “serious human rights violations” there that may amount to “crimes against humanity.”
Reposting from same post on world news:
The Globe and Mail actively fights against Canada’s and Canadians interests by distorting stories to suit conservative attack dog communications strategies.
It is owned by Woodbridge a holding company led by the Thompsons a Canadian aristocratic family (hereditary peer Baron of Fleet) and literally the voice of billionaires. Additional holdings include Thompson Reuters who is also in the news recently for enabling Palantir and ICE execute a fascist takeover in the states.
Various members are on record donating to the Conservative Party as well as funding partisan think tanks like the Fraser Institute.
In addition, this is a clear attempt to sabotage Carney’s realpolitik attempts to diversify away from the US, including growing trade with China, by forcing domestic politics to virtue signal like Trudeau as a wedge with China. I.e. Force Carney to insult China publicly, to refreeze relations.
This line of action serves US interests in an attempt to subjugate and annex Canada. Thinly veiled treason.
Globe and Mail is hardly a right wing attack dog. Challenging the PM, or any politician on their position is the mandate and purpose of the media. Why should Carney get a pass?
Look, as much as I’m sure you aren’t wrong about it being a conservative mouthpiece Carney is just a really shitty person who has no idea what he’s doing actually running a country.
Interestingly, the Liberals are barely left of the Conservatives but if people start seeing them as functionally the same as Conservatives then we become a proper multi-party country again, and if we’re lucky we even start seeing the conservative vote being split while the NDP enjoy some space. This country is only going to get worse, in the way it’s been getting worse in front of out eyes for a long time now, if we keep this up.
I’m a leftist so I generally hate Carney for a ton of reasons, but “has no idea what he’s doing” is absolutely incorrect; he’s been doing very well in response to the US and his actions have undoubtedly helped Canada. He’s good for business and great for the economy; the country would be far weaker and in a much worse place if conservatives had won.
Far from ideal, and I’d much rather see the NDP gain ground… But from the realistic options Canadians had: I think they made the best choice possible and it’s already paid dividends.
Read my other comment in here. Thinking Carney is doing good things for Canada requires a heavy amount of not paying attention to what he’s doing. He’s literally running the Liberals closer to Harper-era Conservatives than anything and we desperately need aggressive progress, not weak, middling responses.
If “Canada will unconditionally supprt the US in its attack on Iran” is what you call a strong response I mean fucking yikes, dude.
“In that limited sense we supported that aspect. That is not a blank cheque. That is not us participating. That is not us asking for something in exchange for that [support]. That is a just a straight up position.”
“We do however take this position with regret because the current conflict is another example of the failure of the international order.”
(From a CBC article)
Far from perfect, certainly not ‘unconditional’…
It was the first thing he said. He sinced walked it back, but his gut reaction was “unconditional”.
No nuance, no “limited aspect”, he just went directly to sucking Trump’s dick until someone stopped him. Carney’s an empty suit who doesn’t give a shit about you. It was obvious to me back when he looked like a kid wearing his dad’s hockey jersey meekly talking about “elbows up”. He doesn’t stand for anything but monied interests and he’s not even hiding it.
Carney’s an empty suit who doesn’t give a shit about you. […] He doesn’t stand for anything but monied interests and he’s not even hiding it.
I completely agree with you there. And for those very reasons he’s doing pretty good on the economy despite the circumstances. And his pushback against the Americans is far more than what the likes of Poilierve would do.
Doing pretty well in the eyes of Canadians too
Could someone else be better? Probably.
Would almost anyone else be worse? Definitely.
Is he “bad” for Canada? Absolutely not.
But the election is what it was, and Canada made the best possible realistic choice with the options it had. All things considered, it’s going pretty damn well. I have boatloads of criticisms, but the fact that his leadership has been a net positive is almost undeniable.
If I sighed any louder I’d shake the paintings off the wall.
The Conservatives are not a valid point of reference. The fight needs to change to be between the progressives in the NDP and the conservatives in the Liberal party and constantly dodging that only serves to validate the Conservatives. You don’t fight the far-right by treating it like a serious ideology while dismissing the progressive options.
I’m also not surprised that he’s doing well in the eyes of Canadians, most of us are incredibly poorly informed. Hell, I’m telling you guys here all the terrible shit he’s done and you’re just walking right past it, but if I bring up the NDP ya’ll will find any reason to claim they couldn’t lead, even if I could shut it down quickly with simple google searches.
I don’t especially like Carney, but you lose all credibility with:
Carney is just a really shitty person who has no idea what he’s doing actually running a country.
He is literally and figuratively one of the most qualified people on the planet for the job. He quickly laid out a coherent plan that is not only right for Canada and generally approved by Canadians, but a bold, and soberingly accurate assessment for our friends and allies around the world.
I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.
I rarely downvote just for disagreeing, but this stinks of bad faith.
Carney cheered the US/Israel’s attacks on Iran, which have since led to Iran placing a chokehold on the global economy. We are about to see massive and prolonged spikes in the price of fuel, energy, food, and a whole lot of consumer goods because of this. But the genius banker cheered. Don’t forget that.
All while Carney doubles and triples down on fossil fuel expansion, further tying Canada’s economy to the thing that the rest of the world is now 100% committed to getting away from, in order to avoid being subjected to these repeated economic shocks - not to mention the big crisis of climate change. Carney is a fool.
Partial truths. That’s some serious tinting on your glasses.
you’re gonna need to be specific here: what is not true about my comment?
Where to begin? Carney. Carney Carney carney. Is partial truth. Whole truth is Canada has has a hard hate-on for Iran since the CIA blowback that led to revolution. For no real reason than Anglo-American oil interests wanted a good hate for Iran for fucking up their plans. Was never really our business, nor in our interests. All governments since, both conservative and liberal have continued this hostile stance toward them. Why single out Carney? He is in a long list here, and our position under Carney didn’t change one bit.
Canada can and has made arguments about Iran’s opressive government, hostile treatment of its peoples, human rights violations and that too is a partial truth. We’re happy to look the other way elsewhere. Why is Saudi Arabia and ally and gets a pass when Iran gets a hate? If we really cared about human rights and democracy, SA and many others wouldn’t get such an easy diplomatic pass. SA lets in Anglo American oil companies and buys arms. Iran doesn’t. We don’t say this because the Canadian public prefers the half truths and the plausable sounding lies.
“Cheering”: He did speak of Canada support for US/ Israeli actions against the regime, not the war on its people, or the economic disruptions caused by US/Israeli shitting the bed. Another half truth. He calibrated that his support is " not a blank cheque" and does not support the war and won’t participate directly. That’s not cheering.
Yeah why would I single out Carney, he’s only the current prime minister at a time when the genocidal states of US and Israel launched attacks against a sovereign nation that are so ill-advised, I’ve heard commentators talking about how this is akin to the UK’s Suez Canal moment that cemented that empire’s decline.
It’s funny how Carney is always described as being so brilliant and worldly until he once again steps in it. Then it’s never his fault; it’s prior governments’ policy; he’s new to the job so give him a chance; he’s playing some secret genius chess game so let him cook, etc.
Anyway, he cheered initially, that is a fact. He only re-calibrated his support after it became clear what a disaster this was becoming, and how horrified the reaction from Canadians was. His previous statements about things like a “zionist Palestine” show just how completely out to lunch on these issues he is. Or he understands what he’s talking about, in which case he’s a monster.
He’s fucking useless. He’s firing tens of thousands of federal workers and recently just made a deal with Doug Ford to wave off $8.8bil worth of development fees for new homes which will not lead to lower house prices but will lead to taxpayers in more responsibly built places subsidizing low-density neighbourhoods even more than they already are. Weird that he could find a way to wave $8.8bil dollars but still needs to fire so many people in a time where the unemployment rate is already so fucking high.
Air Canada flight attendants exercise their rights? Don’t worry, Carney will be there to declare the strike illegal and try to force them back to work. He had more to say about the CEO not saying “sorry for your loss” in French than about Air Canada’s horrible payment practices.
He’s also giving massive breaks to O&G companies, many of which are based in the US, and some of those little bits of help are letting them tear up our environment without review.
When the US attacked Iran it took only a few hours for him to declare that Canada would “unconditionally support” the US.
STILL no electoral reform, too. The fact that the Liberals refuse to execute on that, because the non-partisan in committee found that they’d likely never win again, should disqualify them in the eyes of most any voter who actually wants a real democracy. It’s not hard to do, they simply won’t do it. Ten years and still nothing.
He’s fucking terrible, has no clue how to actually run a country, and I have no idea what you’re smoking that makes that look like good leadership but you might want to lay off before it fully cooks your brain.
It’s wild that you’re being accused of bad faith considering you’re repeatedly pointing out actual things that Carney has done, whereas the people arguing with you are just saying these broad platitudes, stuff like “he’s good for Canada by every metric”
Exactly. The only positives I ever hear about him is how he’s boring and is totally doing things the NDP could never(zero evidence or historical data provided to back that crap up) and/or how he isn’t PP which is like, any of the options weren’t PP besides the ghoul himself.
I’m so tired of this country sometimes. We have no fight in us, to the point where the best we can offer is a terrified center-right vote and I get more aggression for saying that’s dumb than the Liberals get for the past ten years of getting in the way of any true progress.
Why don’t they make a list of questions that they know he can’t publicly answer? “Mr Prime Minister, do you think that Donald Trump is a Russian puppet?”
LOL the GLobeandMaiol… would they write this same article about Israel’s various genocides?
This ‘LOL’ alone is misplaced, let alone your attempt of distraction.
But to answer your question: yes, they do publish these stories. You can easily find it.
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This ‘LOL’ alone is misplaced,
Is it? when a rag disguised as journalism pumps out propaganda for their corporate masters it makes me laugh at their lack of credibility
But you can drink the kool aid my friend
It is disgusting. But as we know in the meantime according to a study,
[tankies’] support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes [such as in China, Russia], even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine […] and exhibiting anti-Zionist and antisemitic rhetoric.
So no one is surprised I guess.
See… me hating on the globeandmail propaganda does not imply I applaud Carney’s every action nor China’s… that is always the strawman people like you make when you have nothing else to hold on to.
Carney has also said fuck all about the recent genocide in Sudan… so I guess that means the gloveandmail (and you by extension) applaud that genocide? right? I mean, as per your lOGic…
The next whataboutism and attempted insult.
The linked media reports also about Israel’s genocide, but this is not the topic here. This is about China’s genocide. What you are doing here discredits you. If you continue to whatabout, I end this discussion.
China is commiting genocide. AND the globe and mail is a filthy billionre tag. Both are true, shut the fuck up
LOL ok bud… your “discussion” (and post history) has no value to me…
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The headline makes it sound as if they’re being unfair. It doesn’t matter that much whether he uses that one specific word, what matters is what he does say about it. But when you get down to the details of what he’s said, it seems less unfair. Making trade deals with China might be profitable, but if it really does require being that deferential to them on this topic then the cost isn’t worth it.
The same should apply to other countries as well, of course.
No surprise. He always deny the genocide in Gaza and probably in sudan too
