• SupraMario@lemmy.world
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    No I don’t it clearly states already in the first line of the article:

    Children are in that line…which is not true. Firearms for children are not their number one cause. Adolescents 15-19 yes, because of suicide.

    I just checked the causes of death for my own country, and firearms or other weapons don’t even register.

    I’m betting your own country also has safety nets, a focus on healthcare, education and not locking up everyone for minor drug offenses…

    The reasons are Cancer, traffic accidents, other accidents, suicide. Below 1 year, it’s near 100% birth defects or whats called cradle death, where the baby dies suddenly in its sleep for no known reason.

    Which is what ours is for children.

    Yes here too is the highest rate among the 1-19 year olds also between 15-19. But NONE are from firearms! And so few from other weapons that it isn’t even in the statistic.

    Which is great, but the USA doesn’t have a firearm issue, we have a societal one. We don’t support our citizens and we lock up the parents or have them working 3 jobs. We create broken homes and ignore education.

    The fact remains that USA is a sick society, that lets its children be shot by legal firearms,

    You didn’t but just at the start here you said:

    No I don’t it clearly states already in the first line of the article:

    So which is it? You know it’s suicide from adolescents or children being shot?

    and allows extreme poverty that increases violent crimes.

    Couldn’t agree with you more.

    The problem here is your thinking prevent you from realizing how sick USA is as a society.

    Not even close. All I’m expressing is that guns are here to stay, and more people own them more than ever, instead of spending the political capital on trying to ban them, we should be spending it on fixing our society…aka the why people turn to violence and suicide here in the USA…and I can tell you this, it’s not because of guns.

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      Children are in that line…which is not true. Firearms for children are not their number one cause.

      Which is completely irrelevant, since the claim is for age 1-19.

      I’m betting your own country also has safety nets,

      Duh of course it has?!?! Only sick countries like USA or very poor countries don’t.

      Which is what ours is for children.

      Again completely irrelevant if it also is for over 90 year olds. This is for 1-19.

      So which is it?

      It is as the article states, hildren and adolescents.
      How the fuck is that so hard for you to grasp?

      Couldn’t agree with you more.

      Well I guss that’s something at least.

      Not even close. All I’m expressing is that guns are here to stay,

      Yes because USA is a sick society. Unfortunately there are no real signs of that fundamentally changing.

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        Which is completely irrelevant, since the claim is for age 1-19.

        Yes it is relevant, because it drives a false narrative. People don’t hear suicide, they hear “4 year olds are being gunned down”.

        Duh of course it has?!?! Only sick countries like USA or very poor countries don’t.

        Cool so you understand something at least on the topic.

        Again completely irrelevant if it also is for over 90 year olds. This is for 1-19.

        It’s not, as I explained above.

        It is as the article states, hildren and adolescents. How the fuck is that so hard for you to grasp?

        Again… because it’s not the same as a literal child being killed by a firearm and a teenager that commits suicide. They’re two massively different issues.

        Yes because USA is a sick society. Unfortunately there are no real signs of that fundamentally changing.

        Plenty of us are trying to change it, but all you are doing is feeding into the “guns are the issue and the only solution is to ban them” agenda that’s being continually pushed, so the ultra rich can divide the people while not actually focusing on the why.