A woman is facing two felony charges after a witness said she purposely hit a cyclist with her minivan in a Key West road rage incident on Monday night, injuring her and fleeing the scene, according to the city’s police department.
Weird thing to focus on. Tourists can be incredibly annoying. Not everyone can just move instantly due to that fact. But regardless the problem here is not that she wrongly judges tourists in general, it’s that she is a murderous psychopath.
If the psycho had said “damn Mexicans!” While living in texas and then commiting the same crime, and then the commenter said “why would you live in Texas if you hate Mexicans?” Then yeah that seems equally a weird thing to focus on. It’s not like if she lived somewhere without people she hated it would make her any less hateful.
Edit: Also I do find it weird in an incomparable way to respond to an attempt on someone’s life with “why you hating on tourists man? They got a right to be there!” Which is always a weird thing to say imo, but especially in the context of violence.
I can see the perspective you’ve laid out, though in a broad sense, when a person commits a wrongdoing of any sort, is it not reasonable to ask and discuss why they did the thing? Seems reasonable to me.
The discussion was ‘the motivation for this action is x’, followed by ‘talking about the motivation at all is weird’. The minutiae isn’t relevant to my initial point.
This seems to boil down to what is considered ‘weird’ behaviour. I guess I have a different view than you do as to what is strange to have a discussion about.
It will always be weird to defend tourists and that’s obviously all this was. Maybe you can point to any value of the discussion that I missed? “Wah tourists are good for you” is not valuable imo
See I think we have different interpretations of the parent comment. You’ve read it as a critique of tourism and consider it “obviously all this was”.
I read that same comment and see the pondering thought of ‘why not move if you dislike it so much?’ in the same way I would if this were a story of a tenth generation Texan being angry about the heat and expressing that anger via some violent measure.
The comment doesn’t read as ‘tourism is the problem’ to me at all, which has been why I’ve described it as a comment on motivation and see it as a valid discussion point. Even when I reread it and play around with where emphasis might be in the sentence if it had been spoken aloud and not written, it feels like a stretch to say it’s either pro or anti tourist.
Sort of a flaw with quick off the cuff comments in a text based medium, but oh well.
Key west has been a tourist area for a good hundred years. Are you really excusing her that she had no time to move out, nor did the last three generations of her ancestors?
Doesn’t matter if it has been a tourist area for 10,000 years. Whether or not she should live there has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to whether or not she is allowed to be a psycho. The answer will always be no
I think the subtext here is that you are typically the annoying tourist (and thus defensive of something irrelevant to anything) and I’m typically annoyed by the tourists where I live. I’m not moving and I’m not hurting anyone either. I’m allowed to be annoyed. People are stupid and even more so on vacation.
No, people take things slowly when they’re on vacation, which doesn’t harmonize with the day to day life of someone who loves there. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid. Stupid would be, when they would adapt the hectic lives of the locals because what a shit vacation would that be?
Look, I’ve lived in Amsterdam for 11 years. Yes, it’s annoying that tourists block the bicycle lanes, but there’s a lot to take in when you’ve never been there before and it’s just something you have to deal with when you’re living in a tourist area. There’s a lot of psychos that would simply ride their bikes into those people. Fuck them, they need to learn to relax.
Yeah I’m aware that annoying tourists cry in this very manner. Oh God guys my common understandable opinion is ASININE. The humanity!
I don’t live in some place that would be a shithole if not for tourists. But even if I did, people who have zero spatial awareness would still be annoying.
So, you understand how all this comes off as you running defense for someone that purposely rammed a person on a bicycle? Because it seems like you don’t understand that. I want to know if this is a bit, or if you’re really just this dense
How are you going to live in a place that’s 97% reliant on tourism and then be mad that you saw a single tourist?
Weird thing to focus on. Tourists can be incredibly annoying. Not everyone can just move instantly due to that fact. But regardless the problem here is not that she wrongly judges tourists in general, it’s that she is a murderous psychopath.
Weird to comment on the motive? If the driver had shouted a slur before hitting this person, would that be a weird thing to focus on?
If the psycho had said “damn Mexicans!” While living in texas and then commiting the same crime, and then the commenter said “why would you live in Texas if you hate Mexicans?” Then yeah that seems equally a weird thing to focus on. It’s not like if she lived somewhere without people she hated it would make her any less hateful.
Edit: Also I do find it weird in an incomparable way to respond to an attempt on someone’s life with “why you hating on tourists man? They got a right to be there!” Which is always a weird thing to say imo, but especially in the context of violence.
I can see the perspective you’ve laid out, though in a broad sense, when a person commits a wrongdoing of any sort, is it not reasonable to ask and discuss why they did the thing? Seems reasonable to me.
When the discussion is “she shouldn’t live there if she is annoyed by tourists”, then no. That’s just op feeling defensive.
The discussion was ‘the motivation for this action is x’, followed by ‘talking about the motivation at all is weird’. The minutiae isn’t relevant to my initial point.
This seems to boil down to what is considered ‘weird’ behaviour. I guess I have a different view than you do as to what is strange to have a discussion about.
It will always be weird to defend tourists and that’s obviously all this was. Maybe you can point to any value of the discussion that I missed? “Wah tourists are good for you” is not valuable imo
See I think we have different interpretations of the parent comment. You’ve read it as a critique of tourism and consider it “obviously all this was”.
I read that same comment and see the pondering thought of ‘why not move if you dislike it so much?’ in the same way I would if this were a story of a tenth generation Texan being angry about the heat and expressing that anger via some violent measure.
The comment doesn’t read as ‘tourism is the problem’ to me at all, which has been why I’ve described it as a comment on motivation and see it as a valid discussion point. Even when I reread it and play around with where emphasis might be in the sentence if it had been spoken aloud and not written, it feels like a stretch to say it’s either pro or anti tourist.
Sort of a flaw with quick off the cuff comments in a text based medium, but oh well.
Key west has been a tourist area for a good hundred years. Are you really excusing her that she had no time to move out, nor did the last three generations of her ancestors?
Doesn’t matter if it has been a tourist area for 10,000 years. Whether or not she should live there has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to whether or not she is allowed to be a psycho. The answer will always be no
I think the subtext here is that you are typically the annoying tourist (and thus defensive of something irrelevant to anything) and I’m typically annoyed by the tourists where I live. I’m not moving and I’m not hurting anyone either. I’m allowed to be annoyed. People are stupid and even more so on vacation.
No, people take things slowly when they’re on vacation, which doesn’t harmonize with the day to day life of someone who loves there. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid. Stupid would be, when they would adapt the hectic lives of the locals because what a shit vacation would that be?
Look, I’ve lived in Amsterdam for 11 years. Yes, it’s annoying that tourists block the bicycle lanes, but there’s a lot to take in when you’ve never been there before and it’s just something you have to deal with when you’re living in a tourist area. There’s a lot of psychos that would simply ride their bikes into those people. Fuck them, they need to learn to relax.
People in general are fucking stupid. If you’ve not noticed that, I wonder how you’ve been functioning with your eyes closed.
No, I think the subtext is that it’s asinine to be annoyed* by tourists, especially when you live in a place who’s economy depends on them
Yeah I’m aware that annoying tourists cry in this very manner. Oh God guys my common understandable opinion is ASININE. The humanity!
I don’t live in some place that would be a shithole if not for tourists. But even if I did, people who have zero spatial awareness would still be annoying.
So, you understand how all this comes off as you running defense for someone that purposely rammed a person on a bicycle? Because it seems like you don’t understand that. I want to know if this is a bit, or if you’re really just this dense
It isn’t and it doesn’t. What a weird troll
So the latter then, thanks for clearing that up
I thought it was that she used a car.