If there’s organic flour, what is anorganic flour made of?
Anorganic wheat,
In principle, Flour made from wheat grown using in inputs produced from inorganic sources. In practice a fairly complex set of standards designed to maximize long term soil health and minimize use of pest/fung/herbicides that could linger long term in the environment around a farm.
So “organic” is a US food label, like Bio?
Yes pretty much exactly. Organic is the US equivalent of Bio in the EU. There are differences in the specifics of what the standards are, some looser, some tighter.
Bidding on food? What??
Was there something wrong with the way we have been selling food for like 3000+years?
Yeah, I really wonder what their thought process was. Are you supposed to bid on multiple foods, so that if you get outbid, you can fall back to the next one?
Wtf is that “sourdough loaf”? That shit looks disgusting. Fits more into shitposting.
Here a fresh loaf for your viewing pleasure:

The post had such a miserable excuse for bread in the pic.
Thank you for the nice bread pic. It looks lovely.but is it sour?
I thought the one in the OP was a breaded chicken breast…

Shit post so good I had to check irl
They should add a bid option. Then watch people snipe your lunch the last second.
“Hey kids, we are eating tonight! Outbid? Oh no… sorry kids, its starvation again.”
the second one is
Yea but they got a 50% rating… I don’t know if I want to try sourdough that only 50% of people like.
50% of the people still alive*
you can’t be sure that the people who died of food poisoning didn’t really like it!
Man that’s a weak-ass looking sourdough loaf.
6 bids
…is it used?
Some chew marks.
Only one previous owner!
For parts
Was warm when cooked.
Slightly dipped by a pair of balls.
Do ppl not realise that this is fake? or am I not in on the joke lol
Between irony, sarcasm, Poe’s Law, human-made hoaxes, AI generated fakes, the low emotional valence of text, and the absurd pseudo-optimism of tech companies looking for the next big thing, there is no such thing as real or fake on the internet anymore.
Sure, but either this does or does not exist. I get how having to always be on the lookout for what’s real and what isnt is exhausting. And all the things you listed have definitely rapidly exacerbated the issue in the last few years, but that doesnt mean that what’s real and what’s fake suddenly dont matter anymore. At least to me.
It’s not that it doesn’t matter. Having a sense of reality is incredibly important. It’s simply, the further we go, the less access we all have to any sense of reality that can be transmitted by essentially any medium.
Yea that is bleak :/ i usually try to think abt the ppl who do care abt truth, but if the tools themselves are “tainted” idk :(
But i 100% know that this kitty is real :3

I don’t have any way to know the kitty is real, but I know it’s cute.
Sounds like it’s time to get a bigger slow cooker if I could sell a batch of stew for this kinda cash. Delivering by bike for minimum wage is shit, but if you own the business and get that kinda money it suddenly beats most regular jobs and starts looking tempting.
I can slap together a killer pot of chili in about 15 minutes (with few secret ingredients that make it truly great), and then it just needs a few hours to simmer. It’s great then, but it is amazing after sitting in the fridge all night.
I’d sell it cold, maybe even frozen, making it easy to transport. Just give it a few minutes in the microwave, adjust the heat to taste with red pepper flakes and/or cayenne/chili pepper, and it will blow your mind.
I wouldn’t mind trying to sell it, and see how it’s received.
i’m trying to remember how much it cost to get my food handlers permit back when. if i could get my kitchen “home certified” or whatever that means (it’s totally a thing shut up) i could be a tamale mama or get back into the ice cream game. i might even be able to compete with our local legend of a tamale mama who started a tamale factory
Ghost kitchens/fb marketplace food/etc are libertarian tech bros flouting government regulation regarding food safety by being like “oh well I don’t actually sell the food” and they 100% get away with it even though stopping the facilitation would be stupidly easy.
They’re testing the waters imo. How long until you can get unlicensed and untrained mental health care, physical health care, etc?
I genuinely wonder what the rate of food poisoning looks like with the rise of shit like doordash and uber eats
They call it a cottage baker license around where I live (for baking at least). I got it in 2025 to sell some loaves and ended up having the most busy year of work so I sold zero.
i’m in california and have cats. i’m pretty sure the rules are insane for me
Your kitchen doesn’t need to be certified.
Google Cottage Food Regulations, along with your state, and you’ll see the rules for cooking food for sale in your home kitchen. The rules are constantly evolving, especially during Covid, when people weren’t working, and needed to make money selling at farmers markets and such. But the rules generally aren’t that complicated, which is nice for a government thing, for a change.
Usually it can’t be stuff with meat or dairy that has to be kept hot or cold. Baked goods like breads/ cakes/ cookies, candies, jarred stuff like jellies, etc. Basically think room temperature/shelf stable.
There are also rules about labeling, font size, specific disclaimers, etc.
Looking at this, the brownies and bread would be legal in my state, but serving hot soup, especially with meat in it, would be more of a restaurant item, and would be prohibited as a cottage food offering.
I used to own an ice cream shop, and we tapped into the Cottage Food laws a bit. We made our own caramel and fudge (oh yeah, every bit as delicious as you’re thinking), and brownies and cookie dough (meh) but we didn’t have a stove at the store, so we made them at home. We didn’t sell them to the public, we just used them in our ice cream.
That’s another issue with Cottage Foods. The cook can sell them themselves, but they can’t wholesale it to someone else, and at the time, they couldn’t sell it online. Again, the rules are constantly evolving, and every state is different, so YMMV. For instance, another poster mentioned getting a Cottage Food license, but that isn’t necessary in my state. You could bake a bunch of brownies, and sell them at your lemonade stand in front of your house today.
In all my limited experience in the Cottage Food world, not once did any authority, food safety inspector, etc. ever ask a word about it. They have these rules, but I’m not sure who would be in charge of enforcing them, and I doubt they even know, so you’re pretty much free to do whatever you want - until someone gets sick. Then you’re screwed.
So stick to the rules, avoid meat, and you’ll be fine.
google california for me reeeaaal quick
Okay, did that, and yeah, you guys are a little tougher, but not that bad, depending on what the training takes, how much it costs, and how long the approval process takes. Knowing California, all of it is probably “a lot.” Kinda sucks. California is the poster child for Democratic over-regulation.
However, the food handler training is pretty easy, mostly common sense. Teenagers get it to work at McDs, so you’ll be fine. Getting the permit and registration is probably just a matter of paperwork and a fee, and a wait. Nothing said anything about a kitchen inspection, unless you need that for the permit. But they’re expecting to go into everybody’s normal kitchen, so just give it deep clean, put EVERYTHING away, polish the counters, appliances, and floors, and make sure there is soap, hot water, and paper towels next the sink (it’s a thing), and you’ll probably be fine.
In my Red state, the laws are pretty simple, no refrigeration, direct-to-consumer (and they allow Internet and mail order now), specific label language, and you can’t make over $250K (we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it, right?). Like I said, I could literally bake a pan of brownies right now, and sell them at my driveway lemonade stand as soon as they’re ready.
Not that I’m extolling the virtues of this state, the government absolutely sucks, but their cottage food laws are working right now, so at least they got that going for them. Wait until they figure out that it give undocumented people the opportunity to make money in their own kitchens, they’ll abolish them immediately.
Wait until they figure out that it give undocumented people the opportunity to make money in their own kitchens, they’ll abolish them immediately.
see, one town over, we had a tamale mama doing just that 30 years ago in her house. became a local legend. sold so many tamales that she had to hire people. started a legit tamale factory. pissed off the local department of health guy so much (and he’s a republican asshat, refused to do anything during covid but loves to come down on restaurants owned by nonwhite folk) that he personally lobbied the state to get the cottage cooking laws (being laypeople and through the grapevine gossip we just called it the at-home cooking sales laws) changed so it couldn’t happen again, but they couldn’t shut down our local tamale mama thank the gods. also because of this our tamale mama got citizenship but anyways.
around
edit: i don’t know where the around came from but i’m leaving it. heh, it gets around.
about ten years ago my baker friend got hit HARD when the regs changed. that was right around the time all the bullshit happened and she had to move her operation out of her house, into one of those damned rental kitchens. it’s too much work and i’d have to get rid of my cats to do it at home. or remodel and get a second kitchen that the cats don’t get to go into. we don’t have a large enough orthodox jewish community in our town to have many second kitchen houses available.
One of the things that’s pretty universal with Cottage Food laws is the No Meat rule, so the tamales were probably in violation right out of the gate.
If you become so successful that you attract the attention of the authorities, you are probably at the point where you should just become a legit food manufacturer or restaurant.
In my state, there is a $250k limit on earnings for Cottage Food businesses. Then you gotta go legit.
is that earnings, profit, revenue? those are very different numbers
>Gross sales for a cottage food operation must not exceed $250,000 annually.
This is straight from the state’s website, so $250K in GROSS sales.
Any details on this? Is the plan to just let anyone sell whatever food they damn well please? Commercial kitchen licensing and safe food handling licenses exist for a damn good reason. These regulations were written in bloody diarrhea.

:(
There is already a massive difference between my coocking for myself and for guests. And my guest cooking wouldnt survive a health inspection. On the other hand do i know enough restutanz kitchens that are worse. So much…
There is already a massive difference between my coocking for myself and for guests.
I hope your guests get better coocking than you do, but I guess you have to treat your coock right every now and again.
Yes. Easy exanple is the tasting spoon. For myself i just reuse it, for others its a clean one everytime.
I use the same one. If I’m dipping into simmering hot sauce or broth, it’s killing any germs, and I’m not exactly a vector for serious disease like Typhoid Mary (she was a cook).
Frankly, it’s the unheated stuff that you might handle with bare hands where germs will pass the best.
“The tasting spoon” is quite the cleaver euphemism for your coock
How else am i supposed to reach the bottom
Its “disruptive” duh.
I think the plan is this is a joke…
I mean during COVID as a nurse I paid for my neighbor’s groceries in exchange for meal prep (they were single with no kids so it was still cheaper than getting takeout all the time) but that’s a highly personal deal to cut. Incidentally though I told one of my coworkers about the deal and they were like “wait my neighbor has kids but I could probably still net positive on like half their groceries…” There were some good human moments during that time. I also promoted that neighbor who cooked for me to husband but that’s a different story.
You fool, you fell for the classic blunder
Move fast and break things
Move slowly with diarrhea.
Move fast but leave a trail
Runs for president.
The MAGA motto, along with “Don’t bother me with facts, my mind is made up.”
nope.avi
This is a food safety disaster, lmao
You don’t want overpriced home cooked food from complete strangers on the internet?
Having seen my co-worker’s hand washing habits, there is exactly one whose homemade food I’ll eat at work potlucks and that’s free.
Might be breaking an NDA
Unless they made you sign an NDA when you were invited to the closed beta, i doubt you’re breaking an NDA. The most they can do is revoke your access to the closed beta i think.
Also, 3 hour old sourdough with a bid that ends in 2 hours… Hmm, i love sourdough from 5 hours ago… Very fresh.
I usually leave my sourdough to cure for 24 hours before I slice it. Improves the texture. Lets the gluten solidify.
High hydration, so letting it dry out a bit is fine.
Your patience is inhuman. When I was still eating bread, I would let the bread cool, but not even to room temperature.
Oh, I make two loaves and you bet we go to TOWN on that first one. I’ll give it 20 minutes in the pan, then 20 minutes out of the pan, or, if we’re hungry and impatient, I’ll do a cold water bath in the pan and then pull it out to airdry as long as I can stand. :)
With this particular bread, if you cut it too early, it’s kinda gooey. It needs a little time to come to temp.
Can’t get sourer than this.
If they signed an NDA, I would expect ebay to suspend the account if caught. There are different ways that could happen. This assumes this thing is even real.
They don’t need an NDA to suspend your account, just terms in the EULA.
NDA is for when you involve a court.















