• haverholm@kbin.earth
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    3 days ago

    We’re on the same page about the problem, I think. And as I said in my original comment, there are absolutely reasonable applications for LLMs, they just won’t pay back the investments chucked into the research quick enough. So we get instead our current “AI” moment.

    Now, as a counterpoint to your argument about black and white positions — I see a lot of people filling the gray areas with what is essentially whataboutism:

    • “The next model will be much better”
    • “People said the same thing about the internet”
    • “Sure it sucks and make stuff up, but it’s good enough for me
    • “You can’t stop progress”…

    In that context, I think it’s important to take a black and white stance, staying off that slippery slop(e) of bad faith arguments. “AI” as it is being marketed to us is bullshit, and needs to stop.

    But once that bubble is burst (and it will one way or another), research needs to continue in a more focused manner into the fields where LLMs can actually make a positive difference (hint: it’s neither search engines or your operating system).

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      23 hours ago

      Those are not “whataboutisms” lol

      Of course the AI bubble will pop massively, but LLMs not being useful in search engines or your OS is utterly delusional. Of course, I’m not talking about AI on Winblows, but having a locally running LLM could prove incredibly useful for providing support for Linux box. Please be charitable and assume that I’m talking about a well designed system and not some slop that would even dare suggest running commands in the terminal. If you have the hardware, might as well use it right?

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    • dave@feddit.uk
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      3 days ago

      Yes, I suspect we are. Having said that, LLMs even today are sometimes useful for search—perhaps only because traditional search has become so poor.

      Whether they are any use or not is a totally different question to whether they’re worth the money being piled into them though. And that’s my original point really—it’s the behaviour of large corporations that’s more of an issue than some large matrix operations doing clever things with language tokens.