• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    1 hour ago

    Revolution is necessary, because the bourgeois state cannot be dismantled and a proletarian state put in place via peaceful means.

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    51 minutes ago

    Are you willing to due first? There’s a big problem that the last few generations of people don’t know war and are to willing to get into it.

    • ComradePenguin@lemmy.mlOP
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      Nope. I am not prescribing a solution here. I am asking if people believe there is any other solution, and if there is hope to avoid it.

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    As things stand, unfortunately, the far-right is significantly better armed and better prepared for a breakdown in government.

    While I would prefer to peacefully reform the system, it’s increasingly clear that there’s validity to the saying, “If you want peace, prepare for war.” The fact that the right is better positioned for a breakdown in order allows them to push further and further without fear. Civil war or revolution isn’t going to be something the left chooses, rather, if current trends continue (and it seems like they will) we may end up in a situation where it’s forced upon us and we are left but no choice to defend ourselves.

    It’s not necessarily an all-or-nothing deal. There are methods of fighting back that are more effective than relying on the Democrats but don’t constitute full-on revolution, such as strikes. While strikes are non-violent, history has shown that they have potential to become violent, for example, if a boss hires mercenaries to force people back to work at gunpoint.

    Likewise, if masked gunmen started showing up to people’s workplaces, demanding some of the workers to be handed over to be taken as hostages, workers need to be prepared to deal with that emergency.

    Practically speaking, even if you wanted a revolution, there’s now way that would even be viable while practical steps for community defense have not been made. I’m not sure it’s rhetorically necessary to go further than that, particularly on a public forum.

  • Cargon@lemmy.ml
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    6 hours ago

    Only 1/3 of the voting age population voted against MAGA after having a 10 year preview. The US is unsalvageable. Live your life while you can. There are too few patriots to fight back against this hoard of loyalists.

  • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    “I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood. I had, as I now think, vainly flattered myself that without very much bloodshed, it might be done.”

    • John Brown
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    The united states needs a Sun Yat Sen level reformer to come along if they want to get out of this mess.

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    No.

    No.

    Elections were meant to be bloodless revolution. What about “You are forced to vote for someone who doesn’t represent you” screams bloodless revolution?

    Usually this is where I would make a long winded comment about replacing First-past-the-post voting with a voting system that allows more then two parties to exist without a spoiler effect… but that time has long since passed us by.

    Democrats refused to implement the change Obama promised, Republicans eventually won. GG no RE. Good luck out there yall.

  • IWW4@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    Unfortunately no you are not and you and all the rest are completely wrong.

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    I would like to see the “United States of America” burn to the ground and cease to exist entirely as a political and military entity.

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      If the petrodollar fails that’s exactly what’s going to happen. The rest of the world won’t miss the opportunity to hamstring the US during their moment of weakness and ensure they turn into an insular, regional isolationist power. It’ll be well deserved too…

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        I guess that you have to live outside the US to see what a scary man-baby it is. If a country has all the power in the world, and then decides that rules don’t apply to them, it quite a short step to wishing that they would fail and leave the rest of us alone. The delusion is that they have adopted the world cop role. The reality is that they are the world bully.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Adventurism doesn’t generally bring about change, it just justifies further repressions. Organizing is what brings change and enables actual conquest of political power.

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      No, they’d first lock us down hard. They don’t have any humanity in them to take us seriously.

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    No, plenty of us believe it. I didn’t recently purchase 10+ different guns and a ton of ammo because I think things will work out.

    Unfortunately, more people think diplomacy and peaceful protest and waiting until the next time to vote will be enough.

    It’s fucking dumb.

    If my plan to leave the US permanently fails, I’m prepared for literal civil war.

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      10+ guns sounds pretty dumb ngl, 2-3 is fine. rest is better spent helping build some kind of network of support with your local neighborhood.

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        11 hours ago

        Guns are pretty stupid. You’re building a society of individualism, distrust and violence. Not one where a decent human being would live happily.

          • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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            What makes you say that? Just because someone has a different opinion then you doesn’t make them a bot or a troll.

            Decent human beings are a myth until proven otherwise. Now, in the era of unprecedented abundance, we mistreat people by withholding the basic necessities of life from them.

            There is no place to live happily until we make it happen. If this other person wants to be wrong, let em.

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    The degree of the chaos between current governmental state and a better government is the concern i always wonder about. One thing we know is that the rich dont want it to fundamentally change. Even the dems. When biden was comforting a group of megawealthy donors and assuring them that ‘nothing would fundamentally change’ with him in charge, he was speaking for the party. And they havent budged from there. They are not friends of the common people but they are somewhat closer to us than the gop.

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    The US needs to be dismantled. There’s no such thing as fixing a settler colonial state. Everything about it is very young and paper thin, from its philosophies to its narratives to its borders to its laws to its “culture” to its religions. None of it will withstand the slow and inexorable resistance of the world’s people.