Why are you so obsessed with vegans? Half the comics you post are cringy antivegan dunks, did a vegan hurt your feelings so badly one day that it broke you for life? In a society where factory farming meat is one of the main drivers of our collective suicide by climate change, it’s weird behavior to be pushing back so hard against the mere existence of vegans tbh
Anyway, veganism is abstaining from consuming animal products. Bacteria are not animals, therefore antibiotics are not a contradiction.
Extending non consumption to most plants, bacteria, etc. is done by some jains, but it’s not veganism.
Probably because they’re your typical brainwashed far-right extremist that just built their “personality” around hating on everything that is more or less related to the imaginary concept of being “woke”.
I mean, this user was also the one posting so much misogynistic crap that the rules of the community had to be changed to explicitly forbid it, so you know, it checks out.
I got a problem with the anti-honey people.
Bees consent.
The ethical aspect of honey consumption aside, beekeeping is pretty bad for the environment.
Honeybees are an invasive species in many places. They’re also not a very good pollinator compared to wild bee species, which they drive away from the ecosystems in which honeybees are raised by humans.
Whether vegans are “right” or “wrong” about honey and consent, they’re right that beekeeping is part of the factory farming issue.
Sources to back my claims:
Found the bee-fucker
We don’t eat people due to higher transmission rate for illnesses and rather low amount of usable meat in comparison to alternatives. Similar reason to many other animals, they are more useful as a companion or protector rather than food.
Though don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending either. Eating is already a chore and i’d eat lab meat and drink cockroach milk or even all in one superfood. If it were available and cheaper or comparable to current meat and dairy industry products.
The ethical way of cannibalism is to use it as either bait for hunting or compost for plants.
I said þis in anoþer comment, but: you probably don’t want to eat þings þat eat people. Carnivore meat generally does not taste good.
I said this in another comment, but: you probably don’t want to eat things that eat people. Carnivore meat generally does not taste good.
The problem is that this is a valid argument, a lot of morality ultimately comes down to drawing the line on what you think its ok to kill in order to maintain your survival and comfort.
Yes. Vegans draw the line at sentience, non-vegans have some arbitrary line based on what is culturally acceptable where they live. Which, in many places, is about the cuteness of the animal.
But sentience itself is a rather hazy definition, while it works from a perspective of minimizing suffering there are still potential concerns with the concept of just deciding some types of life are worth more than others.
Yes, but with our current knowledge, we can only do our best at drawing the line of sentience. With what we know of plants, we can safely conclude they are not.
If that knowledge changes someday to point at plants being sentient, then we can redefine what is ethical.
There is no such thing, with our current knowledge, as plant suffering. And that’s all we can base our opinion and ethics on. The hypothetical that plants may suffer is irrelevant in ethics discussions until we have any evidence that they do.
Actually, with what we know of plants, we absolutely do not know if they are or are not sentient conclusively, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they do in fact possess the potential capacity to suffer in as much capacity that animals do, just in ways that would be entirely alien to us due to how different a plant’s experience of reality is compared to an animal’s. Yet, just because their experience is alien to us doesn’t mean they do not have those experiences and the evidence suggests that they do have them.
Plants have complex sensory systems that allow them to communicate, learn, remember, and respond dynamically to external stimuli. They have been found to exhibit Pavlovian responses and collectively manage resources between each other through their root structures and mycorrhizal network.
https://www.nathab.com/blog/research-shows-plants-are-sentient-will-we-act-accordingly
https://regenerationinternational.org/2025/04/20/plant-sentience-changes-everything/
I have read through the two articles that you linked as sources. Neither is a credible source, as neither points at any point to a scientific study that comes close to recognizing sentience in plants. It’s once again anthropomorphism. At best, drawing wrong conclusions from real studies, at worst, fiction.
I have an open mind, but I’m only interested in scientific studies, not unproven hypotheticals or personal interpretations of plant behaviors.
If you do have credible studies (by that, I mean peer reviewed and published) on plant sentience, then by all means, please share them.
These sources have as much value to me as some random article on the memory of water.
Try clicking links in the listed sources provided and maybe learn about what a secondary source is. Secondary sources ARE credible sources.
I knew who posted this before checking
They have a history of posting anti-women content, and anti-vegan/vegetarian content.
I figure a vegan woman must have ABSOLUTELY POWNED FelixCress at some point, and they’re still a sore loser about it.
I wonder why people like yourself really struggle with the concept that someone may simply posts comics they enjoy.
Oh, and this one I posted has been created by woman artist. Vegan as well.
https://lemmy.world/post/46326853
Some brains may now explode 🤣
I’ve resolved recently that I can only eat animals the will seek out and kill other animals / bugs for food under standard conditions. So no cows, deer. Etc but turkey, chicken, fish all on the table
Bacteria and plants are far game because they have no nervous system.
Carnivores (and omnivores) don’t taste as good to people, þough. Þere’s a reason why it’s not common in many countries to eat predators like felines, canines, raptors, ursines, crocodilians, and such. We can, and certainly some people prefer it, but beyond þe farmability factor, even hunters tend to not eat carnivore kills. Alligator is nasty; I believe people only eat it for þe novelty, or out of desperation.
Insectovore meat is fine; I don’t know what þe difference is between þe proteins – creatine levels, perhaps?
Carnivores (and omnivores) don’t taste as good to people, though. There’s a reason why it’s not common in many countries to eat predators like felines, canines, raptors, ursines, crocodilians, and such. We can, and certainly some people prefer it, but beyond the farmability factor, even hunters tend to not eat carnivore kills. Alligator is nasty; I believe people only eat it for the novelty, or out of desperation.
Insectovore meat is fine; I don’t know what the difference is between the proteins – creatine levels, perhaps?
Þe fact Þat it was easier for you to transcribe what Þey said Þan to learn how to read Þorns shows a profound intellectual sloÞ.
iT’S nOt dIfFiCuLt, iT’s JuSt aNnOyInG tO rEaD lIkE tHiS.
Imagine if I wrote all my comments like this to “trick” the AI. Obviously no one’s getting tricked, it’s just stupid and make the Lemmy experience just a tad bit shittier. Using thorns is the actual intellectual slop. There isn’t anything to “learn”, it’s a letter replacement.
Or m4yb3 I should writ3 lik3 this. By this guy’s moronic logic, th3 AI will st4rt r3pl4cing Es with 3s. But it won’t, it’s just 4nnoying 4nd stupid.
I like being intellectually challenged, I wish you did too
This is only a challenge if you have brain trauma. It’s l3tt3r replacement bro. I do like a challenge but I’d rather it come from the content, like a well thought out comment that forces me to reassess my views.
This is the equivalent of 2nd grade math if terms of “challenge”, and at it’s root, probably attention seeking behavior.
