That assumes that even extremely miserable lifes are worth living. If I lived in factory farm conditions my whole life, with the kind of procedures the animals have to go through, I’d try to end my life as soon as possible, as far as I can tell. Thankfully I never had to make that consideration in my life.
In terms of Utilitarianism, a life on a factory farm is one of the clearest examples of a life with a net negative intrinsic utility I could think of.
I feel like the repugnant conclusion is more about minimally positive utility lives.
If I literally had that experience for my whole life until then, I’m pretty certain that I would end it. Even if I knew that I would get out somehow. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing it must be if you never experienced comfort and safety, for your entire life.
Its possible that if you’ve never experienced comfort and safety you wont know it exists and the suffering is just baseline and therefore normal and therefore basically fine.
Unlikely, but possible. I’m just trying to hold onto any sliver of hope I can in such an awful world of man-made horror.
That assumes that even extremely miserable lifes are worth living. If I lived in factory farm conditions my whole life, with the kind of procedures the animals have to go through, I’d try to end my life as soon as possible, as far as I can tell. Thankfully I never had to make that consideration in my life.
In terms of Utilitarianism, a life on a factory farm is one of the clearest examples of a life with a net negative intrinsic utility I could think of.
I feel like the repugnant conclusion is more about minimally positive utility lives.
Is it really better to be dead?
What if you were about to win the lottery?
it’s better to never have existed in the first place than to be born into the life of the average livestock
Are you sure? How good is non-existence? I’ve never tried it.
We all did, and we all will again. Its scary stuff, but also it isnt, but also it should be, but also it shouldn’t be
Speak for yourself, I am eternal
If I literally had that experience for my whole life until then, I’m pretty certain that I would end it. Even if I knew that I would get out somehow. I can’t even imagine how traumatizing it must be if you never experienced comfort and safety, for your entire life.
Maybe watch Dominion if you can’t see my point.
Its possible that if you’ve never experienced comfort and safety you wont know it exists and the suffering is just baseline and therefore normal and therefore basically fine.
Unlikely, but possible. I’m just trying to hold onto any sliver of hope I can in such an awful world of man-made horror.
How would you even know what you’re missing?
I’ll watch Dominion, but in exchange you have to (re-)read Man’s Search for Meaning.