Really glad to see it. The fact that the war in Ukraine is still ongoing is an for the world embarrassment, and Canada needs to stand proud, and help.
Time to reconstruct
What’s happening here is that the US is getting Canada to fund their proxy war. Incredible how people are dumb enough to cheer for this.
The money will be used to buy munitions from the United States. Despite pressure from the war with Iran, the United States will be able to meet Ukraine’s needs, Carney says.
And yes, it is literally an American proxy war as has been now publicly admitted by no lesser person than the US Secretary of State. https://thehill.com/homenews/5179806-russia-us-proxy-war-ukraine
edit: I just love how mad people get when you point out the basic facts of the situation as openly reported in mainstream media
Ukraine would be a respectable country if they didn’t sell their assets at a huge discount to fund the war.
https://privatization.gov.ua/en/ (funded by USAID)
When private individuals send money to Ukraine, they need at least a 100% ROI (almost all of the privatization auctions were sold at 50% of value and will be worth more if Ukraine wins the war).
But if the government sends our money to Ukraine, they just give it away.
Why bother paying taxes if it just goes to rich people?
I wish Canada had a serious media that would track where all this money exactly goes, especially since we are doing this on debt.
Ukraine would be a respectable country if it wasn’t an openly fascist regime. They’re not even trying to hide it, but of course you have to translate from Ukrainian which western media doesn’t seem to do for some weird reason. https://nv.ua/ukr/lifestyle/spisok-pidarasiv-u-budanova-pomitili-nezvichniy-bloknot-50603357.html
It is weird how a lot of queer people on .ml and Hexbear support Stalin when Stalin would have had them shot for not supporting the birth rate, or being anti revolutionary by having sex with the same gender.
But somehow the people Stalin hated equally as his son, are some of the biggest defenders of him. Always weird.
agreed. its also weird that they defend the kleptocrats who currently occupy the kremlin as though they give the slightest fuck about communism.
“critical support for the capitalist state that doesn’t even pretend to be socialist”
Well, I’m sure this is preferable to all of us over a cost of living subsidy, food and utilities price regulation, investment in sustainable infrastructure and public transit systems (that aren’t just for mining or logging), broader funding for crucial social welfare programs that have been consistently eroded at provincial levels, etc.
Edit: Really irritating to see the fake outrage about imperialism from Canadians when it comes to Ukraine. You people seriously think that you can’t criticize this shit when a neolib is in office and has actively and explicitly committed the admin to looting even more from this land? Unreal.
Carney is a neolib? Since when?
Has anyone got a picture of Carney and Harper in the same room together?
Is this a joke?
I’d rather cut fossil fuel tax breaks (4.8B in 2022) than cut support for Ukraine. The money sent to Ukraine to defend itself is a fraction of the amount of money we give away to rich fucks domestically each year. And contrary to the rich fucks, Ukraine actually needs this money.
Or bring back the private jet and yacht taxes Carney cut.
One of the biggest blindspots for white Canadians is how Ukraine has been used to reassert white supremacy. Canada doesn’t send fucking money to Lebanon or Palestine, it doesn’t send any to Iran, to Venezuela, to any state that is victim to US and Canadian imperialism. Beyond that, the wealth that is extracted, taxed, and then transferred to Ukraine is in fact also a result of settler-colonialism within Canada’s borders, and it’s not like white Canadians have the same fervor to help indigenous peoples here fight imperialism.
So tired of this fake, performative claim that any of this money is out of altruism and not to secure Euro- and American-imperialist interests.
Edit: also, if you read my fucking comment, you’d have seen the reference to corporate subsidies (“tax breaks”), but obviously your addressing it here is more in service of some lib “elites are the problem” narrative and no concern for the systemic conditions that facilitate that “misuse” of wealth.
So if Canada sent money to Palestine it would magically stop being the result of settler colonial extraction? Or are you throwing every talking point at the White Canadians to see what sticks?
How about instead we pause the moral outrage and exhausted language for a second. We actually don’t disagree that Canada should be pursuing a more activist role in the world, like it does for Ukraine and Cuba. If not for internationalist solidarity (Canada is not a socialist state after all) but as a baseline for the equal application of international law. And we don’t disagree on what that would entail and who should be made to pay for that here in Canada.
What we seem to be in disagreement on is Ukraine, which somehow you frame as a white supremacist project. Maybe you should try to explain that to the Ukrainians that they should spread their ass cheeks to Putin, you know, to smash white supremacy. Being justified in fighting for one’s country’s independence is not only for some people. You can’t say free Palestine and expect Ukrainians to capitulate.
Spare me the irritation and the exhaustion.
That these are two equivalencies in your settler-brain is exactly what I am criticizing.
How you took “Canada is imperialist and imperialism is bad” as “I want Canada to exist but just spend money how I like” is something I can only take graciously if I attribute it to a genuine deficiency in your language and knowledge on these topics. “We don’t disagree that Canada should be pursuing a more activist role in the world, like it does for Ukrain and Cuba [lol],” yes, we do. I do not want Canada to fucking exist, I do not want Canada to colonize, “international law” does not apply to imperialists who have power over the institutions of “international law,” like the US (in large part because of Canadian subordination to the US). “Activism” does not apply here in any other way than as some lib-brained nonsense to moralize the different vectors of Canadian control as something distinct from settler-colonialism and imperialism. You do fucking care about morals, you just accept that yours are universally correct and should be what is enforced globally; wonder where you learned to think like that. If this violence isn’t fundamentally wrong on a moral basis for you, stop talking about, seriously.
Ukrainians are being attacked by Russia, which, unsurprisingly, is not as powerful as the EU and the US, which are exclusively responsible for the genocide against Palestinians; along with their significantly – overwhelmingly – longer list of targets for genocide. I wonder why Ukrainians were able to flee into Europe and Canada, but it is a “refugee crisis” when it is anyone fleeing from Euro-American imperialism, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. Btw, yeah, I don’t fucking care if Nazis in Ukraine are “fighting for their country,” and you shouldn’t either if you knew a fucking thing about how Europe and the US opportunistically support more fascistic, oppressive groups in the countries they “save” from oppression. You a big Taliban supporter are you? Al-Qaeda? Nationalist Popular Front? You mentioned Cuba, have you ever learned why there is a communist state in Cuba? Maybe take a look, this shit is not new.
You have taken for granted all of the values that have been taught to you, and believe that whatever is good must be good. If you actually care about people resisting oppression, you wouldn’t take the Canadian state at face value when they say the money they spend is going toward that. When I point out that Canada does not and will never support vulnerable groups in these other countries, I’m not doing so to advocate for its support, but to demonstrate that it does not and to spur you to question what is distinct about these instances. That isn’t because they’re doing it wrong, it’s because I know that if they’re sending money, it is exactly to prevent any challenge to this hegemony.
Go be mad at something else, I’m not playing anymore.
You can do whatever you want bud, just don’t come around me pretending that you give a shit about anything having to do with helping people.
Many issues can be tackled at the municipal level. Find or form a local advocacy group and get involved with your city’s politics.
Oh, is that so? Wow, first time I’ve heard of grassroots direct action. Love that you also directed it into politics specifically and not something more actionable, really pushing the liberal appropriation there.
Is the sarcasm really necessary? Did I offend you somehow by suggesting that you can affect more change locally than you ever could at any other level of government?
Yes; it is incredibly pompous to take a criticism of the Canadian state as an indicator that I’m some poor rube who is unaware of municipal politics or political activism. It isn’t the deduction of a person who is very experienced in that form of action or the people who participate in it, ironically enough. I meet dudes like this at the least challenging kinds of events, and they’re always the most self-rewarding.
It is also painfully liberal to try and stifle federal criticism by implying that someone is not already exercising the power they have in different ways. It calls on neoliberal virtues of individual responsibility as a means of dissuading systemic criticism. You think I don’t see people like this all the time dude? Get real.
This comment shows up next to the word pompous in the dictionary.
“no u” Get over yourself.
