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Wudi@feddit.uk to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

Lebanon President criticizes Hezbollah: "Negotiating isn't treason. Treason is triggering a war to serve foreign interests"

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Lebanon President criticizes Hezbollah: "Negotiating isn't treason. Treason is triggering a war to serve foreign interests"

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Wudi@feddit.uk to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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  • Valnao@sh.itjust.works
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    19 hours ago

    Daily reminder that Hezbollah actively supported the Syrian occupation of Lebanon.

    An illegal military occupation that lasted until 2005, longer than the Israeli occupation. Israel occupied a bunch of shitty villages near their border. Syria occupied 70% of the country and every major city (Tripoli, Beirut). Syrians murdered countless anti-occupation figures.

    They are traitors pretending to be patriots.

    • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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      13 hours ago

      Daily reminder that Hezbollah actively supported the Syrian occupation of Lebanon.

      An occupation that countered Israeli influence in the region, a country which still currently occupies Lebanon right now.

      Small countries like that don’t often get the chance to choose independence. But they can choose who gets to occupy them. Some occupiers are less bad than others.

    • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      16 hours ago

      Not to whitewash Hezbollah war crimes but without Hezbollah, Israel would have colonies inside Lebanon. Israel is now shamelessly killing Lebanese official army soldiers. The day the army get strong and able to defend itself against the greater Israel genocidal project, we can start about disarming Hezbollah

      https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/lebanese-soldier-family-members-killed-in-israeli-strike-in-southern-lebanon-army-says/3923540

      • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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        13 hours ago

        The Lebanese “army” is a meme. What kind of army sees an invader crossing the border, then just stands there to watch?

  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Ah, kind of like the times the Maronites invited the Israelis to invade in order to gain an advantage over the Sunnis, Shi’ites and Druze?

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    This fucking asshole is sitting by while Israel literally deletes whole Lebanese villages off the map. I hope the Lebanese people can overthrow and execute their president.

    • Valuy@lemmy.zip
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      2 days ago

      The government of Lebanon told Hezbollah to avoid any war.

      On october 8th, Hezbollah congratulated Hamas and they started firing rockets on northern Israel. They publically bragged about it. They told the Lebanese government "Go fuck yourselves"

      This triggered an absolutely devastating war

      And you are blaming the President of Lebanon now?!!! Your hypocrisy is staggering

      lemmy.ml

      Oh, everything is clear now

      • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        15 hours ago

        The rocket was thrown on the occupied Shebaa Farms

        https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 day ago

        And everyone knows that the conflict between Hezbollah/Lebanon and Israel began on October 7th!

        Nothing happened before that so don’t look it up.

        • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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          It was relatively peaceful on the Lebanon/Israel border at that time. Of course there was history, there always is.

          • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            15 hours ago

            when did Israel abondonned the plan to make greater Israel which include Lebanon?

            • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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              13 hours ago

              I’m sure some Israelis want to expand into Lebanon. And they were gifted a great excuse with Hezbollah attacking them in Oct. Certainly it doesn’t justify Israel’s actions, not even close. But it did trigger it.

              • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                It doesn’t matter what random Israelis think about it both Netanyahu and the official opposition support the idea of Greater Israel . France declaring war on Nazi Germany and attacking first led to Nazi Germany occupying France and killing 116,000 French people. France knew that Germany would be a future threat that’s why they did act first. The responsibility will always be on the invader and aggressor. If everybody recognize it is an excuse than the world should act against Israel imposing the most pressure possible to stop it from colonizing more

          • Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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            23 hours ago

            History waddaya gonna do amirite ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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        2 days ago

        “Avoid any war” meaning “do not attempt to defend yourselves or others”.

      • Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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        Hezbollah […] started firing rockets on northern Israel

        This triggered an absolutely devastating war

        Zionist logic. Hezbollah didnt start this war.

        • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          The rocket was thrown on Shabaa farm but apparently for zionist it is part of Israel

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          Hezbollah didnt start this war.

          They did

          Source: Reuters.com

          https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/salvo-rockets-fired-south-lebanon-towards-israel-security-sources-2023-10-10/

          • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            15 hours ago

            Shabaa farms is not israelis

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            The war didn’t start when Hamas attacked, thousands had been killed and imprisoned up to this point. And even if it did start then, Hamas has a right to defend the sovereignty of Palestine, and Hezbollah has a right to assist in the fight against an active genocide on their borders.

            • Valuy@lemmy.zip
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              The war didn’t start when Hamas attacked.

              Actually, it did. A conflict and a war are not the same thing.

              Hezbollah has a right to assist

              Well, the Lebanese Government disagrees.

              • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                15 hours ago

                It is not a conflict, it is colonization which is a constant war

            • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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              If my two dip shit neighbors start fighting, and I decide to throw a rock at one of them, I might not have started the fight, but I certainly stuck my nose in it and don’t get to cry fowl when the neighbor I hit starts fighting me too.

              • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                15 hours ago

                If my two dip shit neighbors start fighting

                You call Palestine a dip shit neighbor? You are the dip shit

                I decide to throw a rock at one of them, I might not have started the fight, but I certainly stuck my nose in it and don’t get to cry fowl when the neighbor I hit starts fighting me too.

                Israel is threatening the whole middle east with i’s greater Israel project. Just like europe, it is not waiting for Russia to finish off Ukraine to deal with the russian threat

              • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Who is crying foul? The people of Lebanon support Hezbollah, their government undermines their legitimate defense in the interest of catering to foreign powers and protecting themselves. The Zionists have attacked Lebanon for decades and have made it no secret they intend to annex parts of southern Lebanon. Hezbollah has proven capable of resisting the Zionist invasion attempting to take their lands, would you rather they sit on their weapons and do nothing while they watch innocent people be slaughtered by the thousands?

                People talk about what they would do if they were alive when the Nazis were commiting their genocide, should we not encourage every group like Hezbollah to fight with all they can to stop these atrocities that we can all clearly see?

                • Valnao@sh.itjust.works
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                  The Zionists have attacked Lebanon for decades

                  Actually, the border was largely peaceful until the 1969 Cairo Agreement.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Agreement_(1969)

                  This agreement allowed Palestinians to bring weapons to Lebanon. Then the Israelis started getting massacred non-stop

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avivim_school_bus_bombing

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryat_Shmona_massacre

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_road_massacre

                  48 hours after the Coastal Road Massacre, they invaded South Lebanon.

                • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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                  You can say they are justified, that’s fine. You are more than welcome to hold that belief, hell I believe it myself.

                  That doesn’t change the situation. They may not have started the fight, but they certainly turned themselves into a target by their own actions.

          • Ferrous@lemmy.ml
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            History didnt start on Oct 8.

            • Valuy@lemmy.zip
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              Yeah. I happen to know that.

              Gaza went through several devastating wars.

              • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                15 hours ago

                Palestine went thought multiple massacres and ethenic cleansing by the terrorist state of Israel

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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          For those looking for details:

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/18/hezbollah-and-israel-a-timeline-of-conflict

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2024/4/15/mapping-israel-lebanon-cross-border-attacks

          • Valuy@lemmy.zip
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            Did you not even read what you posted?

            In October 2023, Hezbollah launched a rocket campaign on Israel in support of Gaza, which was being bombarded by Israel following a Hamas-led surprise attack on Israel that saw 1,139 people killed and some 250 taken captive. Israel returned fire.

            • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              15 hours ago

              It was on Shabaa farms which is not Israel

              https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

            • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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              It’s almost like the 2nd link went into to more detail

    • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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      Ah more death and destruction - good idea.

      • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Israel as the settler colonial power is the only one responsible for death and destruction

      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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        The death and destruction is ongoing, and will continue until someone stops Israel.

        • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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          So kill the president of Lebanon?

          • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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            He certainly deserves death for collaborating with genocidal invaders.

            • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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              13 hours ago

              Lebanon has wanted to be rid of Hezbollah for a long time.

  • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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    Spiderman meme.

    He’s not wrong that triggering a war for the benefit of Iran is treason.

    But settling on unfavorable terms for internal political benefit would also be treason.

    • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Israel is openly supporting the greater Israel project. Hezbollah actions are all about preemptive attacks against settler colonization

      • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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        Why the instance switch?

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