• Gladaed@feddit.org
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      3 days ago

      Or environmentally friendly if leaked. And leaks will happen.

      I am somewhat confident that we could get a reliable H air ship, to be fair.

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      3 days ago

      That’s why you put a vacuum in there. It’s made of nothing, so it doesn’t react, and there’s plenty of it in the universe. Besides, it’s also lighter than anything else you could throw in there.

    • Vikthor@piefed.world
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      3 days ago

      Jet fuel isn’t exactly inert either and we now have another 90 years of advances in technology since the Hindenburg.

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            3 days ago

            Obviously the number is meant to be taken 99.99…% literally, which is the same as 100% by the way. And is not just another way of writing much much harder. That would be lame!

            But to be fair, I rounded the 100 up from 99.7, which I found by adding 99 and 0.7.
            So as you can see the math is solid.

            But the problem with Hydrogen is not just that it is a gas, which is already inherently more difficult than liquids.
            The real problem is that it is a gas basically consisting of only a proton with an electron. So the smallest possible atom, so small it can permeate any material that exist. The only difference is in how fast. When you then also at the same time want to make the container light weight, because if it’s to heavy it completely defeats the purpose, then you have a recipe for problems.

            There’s a reason that despite the advantages, there has never been found a practical use for airships. It’s not that we can’t make them, they are just not any good for practical purposes.

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              No need to go crazy, I just wanted to know where the number comes from.

              But while we are here, Helium is the smallest atom at 31 pm, H is 53 pm and H2 is far off with 120 pm.

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                2 days ago

                Helium is actually worse in many ways, it is expensive, and it is twice as heavy, so it requires more volume to carry the same weight.
                Meaning it is more expensive, slower and more vulnerable to the winds.

                Atmospheric air is 1.29 g/L. Helium is 0.18 g/L and Hydrogen 0.09 g/L.
                So hydrogen can lift 0.09 g more per liter or 7% more than helium.

                Not as bad as I thought, but still Helium is less efficient.