Didn’t Ford do that, like the literal company. China isn’t a car company and I doubt byd has directly committed acts of genocide so that’s kinda one up for them
Chinese businesses don’t get the loans they need to grow if they are not 100% inline with the party. BYD may not be a genocidal slave owner but they will support China’s decisions every step of the way.
They really did a min-maxed speedrun of capitalism. The rich get to be rich, the government gets to imprison, enslave, and execute anyone who doesn’t support them, and that let them undercut all the existing big names in manufacturing. I would bet that there is a Chinese manufactured part in every home in the world that also has electricity and plumbing.
And to which work and when you don’t etc. they can derive meaningful information from the patterns they capture and you have never thought what they can know from the combined data they collect, have you? Seriously, this abrogation of responsibility from users is why tech fascism is unfolding.
And like Tesla, they can record and share anything and everything they drive by - your bank, your church, your side girl’s house, your hotel, your office, your drug dealer… everything.
Idk, when daily devices are spywares then it is more difficult for potential spy targets to stay safe.
I think of soldiers using strava and revealing base/ships activities, or government people driving with their personnal car to work, then it is easy to spot them.
“BUT THE CHINESE WILL SPY ON US”
Have you seen what the Yanks have been up to?
At least the Chinese cars are inexpensive
It’s pragmatism, try it out some time
I wonder if us Yanks can come over the border and buy some too? I want a byd 😭
US has threatened to not let you get tempted to visit them in a Chinese car.
yes…but if we go there, we might also get a free trip to El Salvador too
Please stay there and put out your dumpster fire of a country
I would rather have neither be using my property to spy on me.
Agreed - my point is that if both are “not great”, except one is cheaper…
China wins
China uses slavery and genocide to get ahead economically. Maybe we should be avoiding both.
I agree - got any ideas how to avoid that and still get reasonably priced electric cars?
America is out: “all you had to do was pay us enough to live”
Open Source! When you can audit the software you know what’s going on!
Didn’t Ford do that, like the literal company. China isn’t a car company and I doubt byd has directly committed acts of genocide so that’s kinda one up for them
Chinese businesses don’t get the loans they need to grow if they are not 100% inline with the party. BYD may not be a genocidal slave owner but they will support China’s decisions every step of the way.
They really did a min-maxed speedrun of capitalism. The rich get to be rich, the government gets to imprison, enslave, and execute anyone who doesn’t support them, and that let them undercut all the existing big names in manufacturing. I would bet that there is a Chinese manufactured part in every home in the world that also has electricity and plumbing.
That’s spot on.
LOL… like Canada has not?
So just disconnect.
OTA can be disabled by user. or, the SIM card can be removed.
Then why are we not investing in making it ourselves?
Ask the investor class.
If any car manufacturer thought it was profitable it would happen.
if we waited for things to be profitable before making them we wouldn’t have the roads for these cars to drive on
You’re conflating infrastructure with consumer goods. Ask Stellantis how well the Dodge Charger EV is going (less than 2,000 units sold).
Because stellantis makes shitty vehicles in general.
Oh no, they will watch me driving back and forth to work every day.
And to which work and when you don’t etc. they can derive meaningful information from the patterns they capture and you have never thought what they can know from the combined data they collect, have you? Seriously, this abrogation of responsibility from users is why tech fascism is unfolding.
Or maybe, like Tesla employees, they’ll be snooping inside your garage when you and the gf are doing some naughty or illegal things: https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/
And like Tesla, they can record and share anything and everything they drive by - your bank, your church, your side girl’s house, your hotel, your office, your drug dealer… everything.
This paranoia is driven by people who think they are so exceptional that foreign governments need to watch them all day.
If this bothers you, put tape over the cameras or pull the SIM card.
Like most EVs, I assume the Chinese will have over the air connections (ostensibly for “updates”) so good luck with ‘pulling the SIM card’
Any programmer worth his salt is going to have a “Your cameras appear to be dirty, please clean them before engaging Drive function” error message.
I dont think Im exceptional enough to follow. I DO think AI is powerful enough to follow EVERYONE and collate all our data for foreign intelligence.
Idk, when daily devices are spywares then it is more difficult for potential spy targets to stay safe.
I think of soldiers using strava and revealing base/ships activities, or government people driving with their personnal car to work, then it is easy to spot them.
the yanks already do
Jesus fuck, this is the shit I heard back around 2006 wrt Facebook.
and in 20 years, nothing has happened. Maybe I’m just not important.
Should BYD vehicles be allowed on military bases, or carrying federal employees?