• Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Rich people tend towards entitlement then progress to full fascism. It is a easy trap to fall into with having your ass kissed 24/7 and other already fascists slowly lead you that way.

        It sucks, but human nature.

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          7 days ago

          I know there are well-known conservative Hollywood types, but it seems most in that crowd lean left. They’re all pretty rich. I’ve also done fundraising in solid blue areas where you had to walk 5 minutes down someone’s driveway to knock on the door of their mansion.

          So no, it’s not “human nature”. That’s an excuse the greedier ones us to justify their selfishness.

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            The more outspoken ones are left leaning. Which honestly doesn’t say much these days. The right leaning ones not being directly paid off know that Trump II (hell, even Trump I) ain’t good PR. The ones left leaning probably need to defy their PR to speak out to begin with.

            Overall, being rich means the system works for you, which tends to boost nationalism. Nationalism without actually giving back to your country is a surefire road to fascism. It’s just too easy by that point to isolate and not create empathy in that scenario (the best preventative measure to fascism, and most kinds of prejudice in general).

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              7 days ago

              In both of my examples, I can think of instances where a person is or is likely left leaning. Granted those small populations, but they’re more sizable than you’d think. Some of us found people willing to write a $10,000 check on a whim (I was not that lucky). These people were very much not Republicans. Saying something is due to “human nature” means pretty everybody does it. If anything, of the groups I’m talking about, I’d say far more are quiet than loud. They vote and donate Democrat but don’t necessarily make it their entire personality.

              I don’t know about nationalism being boosted by being rich. If anything, these people have more interest in global investments and wider view of the world than people without a direct reason to be so. I think that might make some of them more realistic about nationalism. I also see plenty of it among those much less fortunate - it’s emotional thing heavily inculcated by wider society. Questioning is still largely socially unacceptable.

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        8 days ago

        Hes been quoted saying “today’s cancle culture, woke culture really bothers me” I’m paraphrasing. He says he feels talking about politics is bad for him. I get not wanting to talk about politics, but, if youre not for trump you would come out and say it because no one would ever want it to be a question. And hes just a dick in general.

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            5 days ago

            Anyone who uses the term woke culture is immediately suspect, and hes a dick on top of it so sounds like it.

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              hes also an attention whore, loves the movie star lifestyle, i think thats why hes quite lowkey about it, im not surprised he is one, WWE wrestlers are pretty conservative. i think NIA jax was another one.

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          8 days ago

          This sounds like a reasonable take to me. Not wanting to publicly talk about politics makes a person a fascist?

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            7 days ago

            Saying you dont like woke culture is very indicative. Very understandable not to want to talk about politics, but, with orange Mussolini in charge you would want no confusion where you stand unless you support him.

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              funny you should mention rock being a rightie, alot of WWE wrestlers are magaty, KANE, undertaker, stone cold. dont know about cenas leanings. as thier audience is often on the right anyways.

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              7 days ago

              I feel like professional entertainers (who aren’t hateful bigots) can have a valid point about dislike ‘woke culture’, that’s completely separate from “politics”.

              The culture wars are basically integral to entertainment these days. Media companies are using rage bait to promote their movies.

              It’s easy for us anons to throw salt when we can just disengage as our mental health requires.

              I don’t know actually if The Rock is a facsist, but barring real evidence I think you’re watering down the term here.

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            8 days ago

            There are two reasons someone wouldn’t disclose their personal politics. One is they are in danger. The other is they are the danger.

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              He is in danger, or rather his career is in danger, if he voices his political opinion, no matter what direction he takes.

              That doesn’t disprove the second option mind you. But wanting to be left the fuck alone in the current hellscape that is american politics doesn’t make you a fascist. It at most makes him a coward.

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                If he said something in that ballpark, it’s stupid either way. Especially if he broke that anyway because he had to be concerned about “woke culture”.

                I guess I’d need more context, but The Rock isn’t exactly someone I feel is being constantly prodded on politics, at least from interviews he chooses to take.

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                if its R his career would be dead(like chris “cant keep his mouth shut” pratt.), and he loves being a movie star. there is some leeway if he leans the other way.

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              there is speculation he leans R though, but he know well enough not to stir the pot, much like SINESE dint until recently.

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          Guess I shouldn’t be surprised, all of these people put on a fake demeanor for the cameras and it’s not authentic.

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            7 days ago

            And his head got so big he practically had to have the DCEU written around him. He refused to be a villain in the Shazam movie and demanded his own Black Adam film where he’s more of an anti-hero instead of straight up bad guy who defeats the bad guy

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              oh yea everyone was criticizing DWANYE for the black adam movie, and the shazam has its own crazy going on, the “shazam guy” turns out to be a looney person too.