Now Hungary has the challenge of rebuilding their nation after 16 years of MAGA-style destruction.
People should read a little about Magyar. He’s a little Trumpy himself.
So this means EU’s aud to Ukraine is unblocked, unless the lowlife fascists in Czechia or Slovakia decide to take Hungary’s place in being obstructive.
They better don’t. Otherwise we’ll send JD on a visit.
The Political Grim Reaper
People tend to underestimate the enormous success of the EU. It can be seen in the economical developments of Poland and the Baltic states. Ukraine saw it and wanted in on it. Russia knowing that if Ukraine too would ‘fall’ to democracy, Russia itself would inevitably follow. So Navalny needed to be killed, Ukraine invaded, the EU sabotaged. Hungary was their pawn. Not only could Hungary halt EU decision making through veto’s, they could also be used in propaganda. How can Putin be all bad if even this EU country sympathizes with him? The EU will now be very inclined to make Hungary as succesfull as they can. It’s too early to celebrate, the Hungarian government will still be filled with lots of Fidesz bureaucrats. And the new government may still be inclined to use its ties with Russia. But the past decades have proven that the cheap Russian oil can’t compensate for the corruption that comes along. Magyars anti-corruption stance is pretty much saying: we want to model our country towards the EU examples, not Russia. Lets hope Magyar succeeds and other countries follow. Lets hope that eventually Belarus and Russia will rejoin the European family. The world has much to win here. The EU has been the driving force behind multilateralism. If we want to save the planet, we want a strong EU leading the way.
Lets hope that eventually Belarus and Russia will rejoin the European family.
That will take time.
The Russia is now politically about where Ukraine was around year 1970. And it took Ukraine until 2008 to start seriously becoming democratic, and even then it seemed to keep regressing again and again. Only the aggression by the Russia in 2014 stabilized Ukraine’s path towards democracy. This took Ukraine altogether about 40 years and the Russia won’t be able to be faster than that. The couple decades of extremely immense propaganda have taken their toll. If the propaganda somehow ends this year or the next, then the children born now will still be imbued by it because of their parents’ thinking, and the children of the children being born now are going to be reasonably okay, already. But still not really ready for EU. But the grandchildren of children being born in 2026 might really be able to feel European. So, when those are adults, then maybe. If the Russia ends the propaganda now.But the Russian propaganda is something that has existed for several centuries and from conversations I’ve had with Russians in Russian language, I don’t really get a feeling that they will be letting go of that anytime soon. A Russia without Pushkin… What would that even be? Such a huge part of their literature is so toxic that whatever they try to achieve, their old literature will pull them back into what they have been for centuries.
We can always live in hope, but I really don’t think the Russia can become anything humanely thinking anytime in the next two centuries at least.
Also if Russia joins the EU, the EU would be 2/3 Russia in terms of land mass and a quarter of the EU population would be a Russian citizen. Not sure if that is a good idea. Would give this one country way too much leverage and power inside the EU, especially once the Russian GDP per capita matches Germany or Netherlands. Like we already see how much power Germany has in the EU.
Russia should defederate and fall apart first like every federal district or republic should become their own country before they join the EU.
I wasn’t so much thinking of them joining the EU, but of them being in close collaboration and with more or less aligned values as the EU, rather than our worst enemy. I agree it might not be a good idea to have such a huge country in the EU.
A collapse of Lukashenko’s gangster dictatorship would be a welcome development. He’s propped up by Putin, but there’s not much Putin will be able to do to save his bacon if the Belarussian people decide it’s now safe to stand up to him.
What’s recently transpired in Moldova followed the same pattern, and Russia lost that puppet. And now they’ve lost their Hungarian fifth columnist too. Now, if the oil price drops back, Putin will be even worse off.
First things, first: Congratulations to all Hungarians!
As for the rest of Europe, does this mean the other Russian agent, Fico, won’t have anybody covering his back in the EU anymore?
What a great day for Democracy, now hopefully he follows through on his promise of constitutional reform and dismantling the Orban mafia so this can’t happen again.
Pro russia israel old orban gone
Pro israel young orban came
We wrote history today. Amazing victory
Who would had thought it wouldn’t help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It’s almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that’s why they aren’t mentioned)
I’ve lived in a couple of countries in Europe and in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain (though that seems to be changing with all the transphobia popping up over there nowadays).
Certain American Nationalism isn’t welcome and the (pseudo-)religious crap doesn’t land well here either nowadays (it’s funny how in the XXI century the US is the closest to a Theocracy of all Western nations whilst in the rest religiouness has been seriously dampened by Universal Education).
Only the anti-immigration talk goes does well with supporters of the local Far-Right around here.
Further, I suspect that the side-effects of America’s and Israel’s attack on Iran are switching people of from Islamophobia - except perhaps in the UK the local Press just isn’t anywhere as unified in using Manufacturing Consent techniques to spin American and Israel as the good guys fighting the evil “Regime” in Iran, so people seem to be blaming America and Israel for all this shit rather than Iran.
Last but no least, there’s not really any MAGA over here, so from hearing and seeing him talk on TV people have an almost universal opinion of Trump as a disgusting liar because he’s constantly and very obviously contradicting himself and his body language just shouts sleazy asshole and without the mindset of constantly coming up with excuses for him of the True Believer, Trump just looks like a slimy shity loudmoth.
in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain
Well, Orban was in power for 16 years. Fico and Babiš are still in power, as is Meloni, though so far she’s been staying within the EU and her power seems to be waning after her referendum to capture the judiciary was rejected by voters. So anti-immigrant hard-right thuggery still wins elections in some EU countries, though they seem to be on the wane.
And as for Britain: in England, it looks like Reform (the fascist party led by Farage, who constantly parrots MAGA talking points) will take over leadership of quite a few councils in next month’s local elections, despite their record of corruption, failure and incompetence in the few councils they currently control. Their polling isn’t as high as initially predicted, but Labour’s support has collapsed and the Conservatives are dead in the water too. The Greens are also polling well, but they’ve had to scale up rapidly and haven’t yet demonstrated national reach, though in the region of England where I live, they have a fairly good chance of replacing Labour as the majority party in our county and city councils. As for the LibDems, they remain small but will probably maintain their vote share due to good local organisation.
In Scotland, it’s still the SNP. In Wales, Plaid Cymru looks like it’ll take over.
The big unknown in England is whether Labour can stop the rot, break the control of the Labour Together faction and replace Starmer with a soft-left PM. I’m not at all optimistic. Even if they ditch him, the parliamentary party is brain-dead enough to choose Streeting as their next leader. He’s as authoritarian and corporation-friendly as Starmer, and even more slimy.
That’s true, but in every important EU-level vote, Hungary was the inflamed pimple on EUs ass, I truly hope this will change now.
My point is that there isn’t a Far Right in Europe or that it’s small, it’s that most of the Far Right dog-whistles from America don’t work in Europe.
Present day Europeans rarelly care about all the “God talk”, they don’t overly care about Homosexuality or Transsexuality and they certainly don’t think America is a Great Nation.
Absolutelly, the anti-immigration discourse goes down really well here (in fact, it’s the core of the Far-Right ideology in Europe), but beyond that what exactly is the part of the American Far-Right discourse which would make Europeans be more interested in that side of politics beyond what the Far-Right discourse of the local politicians already does.
IMHO, the biggest impact of America on the Far-Right in Europe is the money they give to the Far Right in Europe rather than an ideological foundation.
trump seem to have no use for vance inside the us apparently.
Trump’s definitely been setting up Vance for failure lately, as Rubio kisses his ass.
Congratulations! Russia, go home!
I’m happy for your people and for Europe. I hope this movement keeps its promises.
I hope this movement keeps its promises.
This sentence is a damning indictment of a political climate where keeping one’s promises is a hope, not a given. To worry about betrayal should be a fringe concern, not a reasonable scepticism.
And yet, here we are. It’s hard not to become a cynic.
Imagine being such a world class fuck up that you fucking torpedo a 16 year long dictatorship by stumping for it for a week… that’s so incompetent it’s almost impressive.
Orban would have lost without his help.
I suspect Vance’s intervention helped Magyar’s party get that 2/3 majority.
Well, we can’t say that they did nothing good for this planet.
More right wingers aren’t a solution for right wing problems. All they’re going to do is give the hard right cover.
Viktor fucking POS Orban steps down with more dignity after 16 years than our own home grown dictator wannabe did after 4. What a timeline to be alive in.
Because Orban has never been a dictator
But he sure as hell liked the boots on them.
What country are you talking about when you say your home grown dictator?
Likely America
lol, yeah I figured
America: where even our store brand Hitler came from TEMU.
As well as the shoddy quality, there are definitely some pieces missing.
Tbh that was a big surprise, nobody predicted that. Still, happy he did, it will make cleaning house much easier
Probably because Orban actually fears backlash from his population. The US doesn’t seem to have to worry about that for some strange reason…
Exactly. If Orbáns past failures had been as over-reported as his posturing, people would be way less surprised about his current democratic loss.
L bozo
Jail that bastard.
Y’all think the UK will rejoin the EU next?
And Ukraine, while they’re at it.
I’m hoping that belarussians get the courage they need from this and finally revolt against their shit of a ruler.
Iceland next. Bog britain still a long shot. Ukraine most likely before BB. EU needs Ukraine. They militiary is probably the most capable in the world against the Russian army, and defense in general. This is why there is no way around accepting Ukraine into EU.
Well, there’s this story:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/12/britain-single-market-rules-uk-eu-reset
Sure seems like a roundabout way of just… being in the EU.
Are you British, by chance? What’s the mood on Brexit these days?
Not a Brit. Sorry.
The Brexit crowd have gone conspicuously silent about it. Their lack of crowing says a lot about it.
Even before Brexit, the tide had turned, and that’s only gotten stronger. Unfortunately, the government had their vote and hammered it through. (The fact there was an EU rule change, on tax transparency, the next day, and would have embarrassed a lot of rich UK toffs had NOTHING to do with the timing)
Unfortunately, the reform party is far too strong, and trying to drag us to the extreme right. Our “left wing” primary party (Labour) is now further right than the conservatives (center right party) traditionally sit.
It’s… frustrating.
That sounds… British. Frustrating, in a frustratingly orderly way.
Outside far-right politics must be making reform look bad in the UK though. Right? Like Hungary, Turkey, whatever’s going in Germany…
We are in a media bubble. Basically all our media is owned by a few rich arseholes and they bury a lot of anti right messages.
The BBC used to be remarkably honest and independent from government. The conservatives getting their claws into it was the beginning of the real problems. Even worse, the BBC’s impartiality has been so sacrosanct that a lot of older people just believe it.
A mild bit of light. The green party seems to also be making significant advances. Labour have often played the “don’t split the left vote” card on them. Now it looks like green is overtaking them in some areas. It just doesn’t show up well in a FPTP voting system.
Ah, moguls + FPTP strike again.
Yeah, I can see Green gaining traction as climate/environmental problems start to grow. The British Isles are relatively sensitive. Though it seems Green has had its own controversy (kinda like the small parties here in the US have).
The UK is still a lot more multi party at the lower levels of government, compared to the US. Unfortunately it’s erring towards the US system, rather than away from it.
Great, lets see what changes now. It would be good to have Hungary “back” in the European Union. But it is too soon to tell.
