• fun_times@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    On the one hand, his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s (he used to be a Fidesz party member until two tears ago).

    On the other hand, he is somewhat EU friendly, supports Ukraine and, most importantly, is the head of a different party. 16 years of Fidesz rule is over. That’s not nothing.

    • vga@sopuli.xyz
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      1 hour ago

      his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s

      Fidesz (Orban):

      • Ideology: Christian Nationalism, Illiberalism, Authoritarianism, National Conservatism, Right-wing Populism
      • Political position: Far-right

      Tisza (Magyar):

      • Ideology: Conservative Liberalism, Populism, Pro-Europeanism
      • Political position: Centre to centre-right

      I’ve heard this angle before, but these parties don’t seem to be in any way identical.

    • stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net
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      6 hours ago

      Oh fucking please. Fidesz got hammered by corruption scandals in 2024, Magyar dramatically breaks from the party over corruption, and somehow builds a massive nationwide coalition in a matter of months? The Hungarian opposition somehow abandons all its beliefs and rallies around a politician who holds all Orban’s political views?

      The term for this is “planned opposition”.

      Magyar isn’t Orban’s rival. He’s Orban’s chosen successor.

      It’s easy to win an election if you own all the candidates.

      And y’all fell for it.

    • Derpgon@programming.dev
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      8 hours ago

      He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán. He also stated it was not easy to leave and/or cut ties due to mafia-like behavior, fear of his or his family’s life. His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out due to also going against Orbán’s wishes.

      You have to understand that Orbán is literally an oligarch with tons of money, ties to Russia and the underworld. Magyar only quite recently collected enough support (about 2 years ago I think) to start his own political movement.

      • elBedrock@lemmy.world
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        4 hours ago

        He was known in the party as someone who disagreed on many decisions made by Orbán.

        Can you provide a source for this please? I am a Hungarian and never heard of this.

        His wife was head of Ministry of Justice, which she was kicked out due to also going against Orbán’s wishes.

        She was kicked out because she gave an official pardon to a well known pedophile. They divorced after that.