If you care about supporting open source software, and still use MySQL in 2026, you should switch to MariaDB like so many others have already done.\n
  • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    MySQL belongs to Oracle. That’s literally all you need to.know in order to avoid it.

    • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      Isn’t that the point of Postgresql. It’s basically an open source version of MySQL.

      I’m sure there are some proprietary nonsense that MySQL has, but I’ve never needed it in 17 years

      • Jajcus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        2 days ago

        That is an insult to PostgreSQL. PostgreSQL was fully featured relational database even before it implemented SQL. It started much earlier tha MySQL.

        And MySQL didn’t have proper transactions or data integrity constraints (including foreign keys) for long time, while calling itself an ‘SQL database’.

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          Thank you, I never had time to read up on its history when I was busy smashing out sites on stupid deadlines with constant last minute changes and morons for project managers.

      • sobchak@programming.devEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Postgres is basically an open source version of Oracle DB. Much more featureful than MySQL. I believe Oracle bought MySQL just to kill it.

        • msage@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          MySQL always sucked ass.

          PostgreSQL went in a different direction, started with best support of the SQL standard, then optimized everything to make it fast.

          Postgres has/had the best SQL standard support out of every server, open-source or not.

          MySQL was at the other end, only started catching up after Oracle bought it.

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
        6·
        3 days ago

        Hatred of Oracle predates “cancelling” by decades. Oracle is and has always been one of, if not the most disgusting and vicious companies in tech. They kill everything they touch.

        If you need a political component, then Oracle = Larry Ellison, but Oracle hate predates and supercedes the American political slide into fascism.

        • s38b35M5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          I was at a party about fifteen years ago. A guy introduced himself and we gabbed for a few minutes. Then he asked what I do for work (IT sysadmin at the time) and I told him and asked the same. He said he was in sales for a tech company. I asked which one, and he stepped close and whispered, “Oracle.” I could see he was prepared for me to bring the hate. He saved himself when he told me he was actually leaving for a gig at Dell. Later, I learned from the host that he made that part about leaving up because he felt bad. I later learned he went to work for Nutanix. Poor guy hated his own employer, and it was obvious.

          • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
            1·
            3 days ago

            Nutanix…oof. I deal with them every day. It isn’t their fault their shit can’t handle what we do, but it is their sales folk that constantly lie and misrepresent.

            Wanna know one of rhe big reasons people hate Oracle so much? It’s their sales guys. They are awful. If that guy went from Oracle to Nutanix, that tells me that I cannot trust a single syllable out of their mouth.

            • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
              1·
              3 days ago

              Sales? No, their sales department is second to their legal department in hate.

            • s38b35M5@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              3 days ago

              Lol! I’m glad you picked on that. I won’t badmouth them, but the user experience does that for them. That guy from the party must hate himself, haha

      • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        The hell did Oracle do?

        Have you been living under a rock? Think 2010 for starters…

      • non_burglar@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        When they bought Sun, they:

        • killed Solaris, effectively
        • tried to kill zfs too
        • nearly killed mysql with licensing audits
        • became borderline evil with licensing practices
        • acted like complete assholes in court, holding up cases for years
        • dukatos@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          You forgot what they did to Java, plus they sued Google for using Java API.

        • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          Sun was such a useful contributor to the ecosystem and they fucking trashed absolutely everything. It’s a miracle that so much stuff could be saved.

      • forrgott@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        Why would you keep track? Can’t form your own opinions?!

        And what the fuck hasn’t Oracle done? Like, seriously, they’ve been a known bad actor for literally decades now…

        • Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          3 days ago

          Oh so it’s a greed thing, but not quite a Nestlé level of evil thing, then. Meh.

            • azertyfun@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              3 days ago

              I mean, Nestlé killed hundreds of thousands in impoverished countries. I think the Oracle service APIs can’t be that bad, though I’m sure they would be if it made Larry Ellison $50.

              • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
                0·
                2 days ago

                Can you elaborate on Nestlé?
                I know they’re shit and avoid anything Nes* but am unaware of actual data.

                • badgermurphy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  2 days ago

                  They ware widely regarded as among the most villainous companies in history along with DeBeers and the East India Trading Company. Among their more infamous crimes against humanity include bribing the leaders of developing nations to sign over water rights to aquifers their people are using, which they take completely for bottling, destroying the local ecosystem and population. When the malnourished mothers can’t produce milk to feed their babies, they say things like “use our baby formula instead then, which is much healthier than natural milk”. If there’s not already a Behind he Bastards on them, someone could make a whole podcast just on their villainy.

    • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Older people about to return to programming, and most of the online tutorials they have are about 20 years old, having no idea an alternative exists.

  • Shimitar@downonthestreet.euEnglish
    1·
    2 days ago

    If you don’t want to use postgresql for some obscure reason use MariaDB real open source MySQL drop in replacement.

        • dan@upvote.auEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          SQLite is underrated. I’ve used it for high traffic systems with no issues. If your system has a large number of readers and a small number of writers, it performs very well. It’s not as good for high-concurrency write-heavy use cases, but that’s not common (most apps read far more than they write).

          My use case was a DB that was created during the build process, then read on every page load.

  • melfie@lemy.lolEnglish
    1·
    3 days ago

    Oracle sees itself as an activist organization, one whose goal is the advancement of the Israeli colonization project. Safra Catz, the company’s Israeli-American CEO, bluntly explained that any employees uncomfortable with supporting a genocide should simply quit. “We are not flexible regarding our mission, and our commitment to Israel is second to none” (source)

    Hmm, MySQL or PostgreSQL—how will we ever decide which one to pick.

  • MrSoup@lemmy.zipEnglish
    1·
    3 days ago

    MariaDB >>>

    I’ve been using it since ever on my rpi because they say it’s easier on resources