It’s not bad grammar. It’s different grammar than the “Standard American English” most of us learned in school, and sometimes described as bad grammar for generally racist historical reasons.
Language is largely an arbitrary collection of rules consensually agreed upon. It’s no wonder that throughout history, it has been the ruling classes that spoke the most “correctly” and the poor that spoke “incorrectly.” Grammar is a tool of social control.
I agree but aave was partly formed due to systemic oppression, isolation and restricted access to education so that’s where I was coming from. It feels a little like flattery.
Also I’m not American so spare me the insinuation that I’m an ignorant racist because I don’t fit your definition of being an open minded liberal.
Why does everyone in the world think they can’t be racists simply by virtue of not being American?
I wasn’t calling you racist, but do you find that a lot of people do?
Anyway, this linguistic tendency goes way beyond race; think of how the BBC accent was posh London for the longest time, or how Quebecois are ashamed of their accents, or how Argentines envy continental castellano… it’s a race thing only in so much as it’s a class thing.
What’s with people omitting the possessive apostrophe and letter S? The word “granny” reads like an adjective here
It seems to be a feature of African-American Vernacular English It seems to be well documented. This is one of the random websites that popped up when I searched for it.
Thats super cool, thanks for the link!
classic one is “baby momma” in general american would be “[my] baby’s mother”
Anyone else feel guilty when bad grammar is explained by aave? I understand it’s cultural but it feels patronizing af
It’s not bad grammar. It’s different grammar than the “Standard American English” most of us learned in school, and sometimes described as bad grammar for generally racist historical reasons.
Right but aave was in part formed because of restricted access to education, not preference or rule governance. That was kind of my point.
Language is largely an arbitrary collection of rules consensually agreed upon. It’s no wonder that throughout history, it has been the ruling classes that spoke the most “correctly” and the poor that spoke “incorrectly.” Grammar is a tool of social control.
Free your mind.
I agree but aave was partly formed due to systemic oppression, isolation and restricted access to education so that’s where I was coming from. It feels a little like flattery.
Also I’m not American so spare me the insinuation that I’m an ignorant racist because I don’t fit your definition of being an open minded liberal.
Why does everyone in the world think they can’t be racists simply by virtue of not being American?
I wasn’t calling you racist, but do you find that a lot of people do?
Anyway, this linguistic tendency goes way beyond race; think of how the BBC accent was posh London for the longest time, or how Quebecois are ashamed of their accents, or how Argentines envy continental castellano… it’s a race thing only in so much as it’s a class thing.
Possessive determiners are adjectives.
It’s common in AAVE - nothing wrong with it
How do you know it’s supposed to have an apostrophe and an S though?
Context, but I do think that it’s important enough to not omit