With all the hate towards J.K Rowling (deserved) and lets say Kanye West for example, you can enjoy the art but can you really separate what they create from what they say?
With all the hate towards J.K Rowling (deserved) and lets say Kanye West for example, you can enjoy the art but can you really separate what they create from what they say?
Apparently not. Even good AI art is “slop” according to the majority here.
Ai art isnt art, its shit on a canvas. Art is a form of creative expression, their is no creative expression in any thing that ai creates.
It doesn’t operate in a vacuum. It’s a tool. There is an operator of the tool, and it takes skill to get the output desired.
Thanks for proving my point, though.
OP didn’t even bring up AI…why does AI make it’s way into literally every conversation now?
Because it’s a topic about separating creations from the creator. It’s perfectly topical and cromulent.
You sound like that guy at a party that butts into already going conversations to talk about what you want to talk about, and nobody likes that guy.
You sound like that bird that sticks their heads in the sand whenever they hear something that scares them.
My mistake for engaging to begin with, I didn’t realize you were arguing with everyone in this thread. You’re just a troll. Have fun being a dick.
Debating, not arguing. Not a troll. Engaging in the topic, and you just don’t like to hear views opposed to yours. I only resort to ad hominem attacks when they’re used against me. You started the disrespect in what was otherwise a respectful conversation. It is you who is a dick. I’m sure you’re aware and enjoying it very much.
Lol. Lmao, even.
ROFL, perhaps!
I’ve even tried running models on my local machine just to see what the hype was about. I spent a ton of time watching my GPU spit out things that were…interesting and novel for a bit, but ultimately realized it was just wasting my time with petty novelty, I could NEVER in my right mind attribute my own “skill” to any part of this process.
My time was better spent going back to struggling learning to draw and continuing to study Blender, even as the prophets of the Ai apocalypse hype machine denounce my futility in persisting to become an accomplished human artist that expresses my soul.
I want my affordable hardware back! I’d rub that genie lamp and replace GenAi with personal computing and free art classes in a heartbeat!
Tell me you’ve never purposefully created art using AI without telling me.
“Created art using AI” and “let AI generate a piece” are pragmatically different. I’ve used a tool to generate a percussion “sample” by messing with sliders. That tool used AI to form the hits, but there was no LLM attached, and the tool only uses samples it has the rights to (at least so it claims). I’ve used that as an instrument, but I still compose my music. I consider my art to be the composition. Most of my instruments I pull from samples, although I do synthesize my own sometimes.
There can be a novelty to AI generated work, which is what it was in like 2020-2021. That was fine. For example, it would be interesting to see something like “This is the average song of 202X,” where every song of the top 1000 most streamed were combined on several different levels. But now that, in the art world, we have bozos letting it take over the entire creative process save the arduous task of typing out a few words (not to mention very directly stealing other artist’s work) and expecting to be taken seriously, it’s just exhausting.
Throwing rocks and paint into a washing machine has more merit than creating slop and being proud of it, dude.
With AI generated anything there is niether art, or an artist.
Thanks for proving my point.
No one had the idea, tweaked the input, or carefully wrote a prompt. The person operating the tool doesn’t exist, you’re right.
Do you get credit for creating the work you commissioned from a real artist using a prompt given to them on what to create? 🤔
I don’t know, do artists credit Hewlett Packard for the computer they used, or GIMP for the software they use? Is it normal to credit all the tools used when someone makes art?
I know how to make a piano sound:
I can take that sound and arrange it:
The point is, the tools an artist uses are just tools for efficiency. The product is (effectively) the same. I am not reliant upon any one piece of the process except for my actual mind and body. If I go deaf, I’m in trouble. I’m not Beethoven.
Gen AI isn’t an author and there is definitively no good AI art because it isn’t art. Art requires intent. Hope that helps.