“Very, very senior” officials in the Trump administration have had secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists trying to shake the foundations of the country. The covert meetings between high-ranking U.S. officials and the Alberta Prosperity Project come as a widening rift appears between Canadian leadership and the White House. Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney used a speech in Davos, Switzerland, last week to call out President Trump for creating a “rupture” in the existing world order.
Archive article: https://archive.is/9FsBL#selection-723.0-727.336
Well, it seems that it is perfectly legal to abduct a country’s president with military force and then put them on trial.
Care to help us out Canada?I will take more than just Trump.
If Canada is smarter than America, they will deal with this decisively. It’s one think to be a big dickhead online, screaming for revolution. It’s a whole other thing to be meeting with representatives of a hostile government who has made many threats of invasion. That’s fucking treason, and Canada should deal with it right the fuck NOW, and send a clear message to future traitors. Don’t wait to see if it gets worse, like we do here in America, deal with it preemptively.
How is this not an act of war?
My guess is the actual answer is something like
“Because we all do it a little, we just pretend nobody knows and we’re not stupid enough to get caught like these guys lmao.”
The far-right international coordination must be crushed.
Through far-left international coordination, perhaps??
Reactive-programming, using the same methods, ISN’T strategic-win: it’s just becoming the same underlying-nature, in different “makeup”.
Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
& that takes fundamental, profound, strategic investment, & that isn’t happening.
So, … kiss most of humankind goodbye, this-century, perhaps even all of it.
It’ll be finished by next-century, probably, the “armageddon” we manufacture ( for our unconscious-mind to play “god” in ).
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This is the most insufferable post I’ve read on Lemmy, congrats
Then automatically downvote everything you see of mine: it costs little, & it makes the world be more to your liking.
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Humankind needs to hold to objectivity, correct-reasoning, breaking ideological-programming, breaking false-framing, breaking machiavellianism ( from ALL sides ), etc,
This reads like 10 feel good quotes smashed together without any logic.
Paradigms produce their-paradigm’s results.
Never bother expecting empathy from a sociopathic-paradigm, right?
The paradigm-ITSELF as to be corrected.
No more-superficial amendment’s going to change anything.
& if you deem my meanings to be logicless, then simply downvote them all, to improve our world.
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“OH NO! SOMEBODY WANT TO KICK FASCISM IN THE FACE UNTIL IT STOPS BREATHING AND REPLACE IT WITH BASIC DIGNITY FOR ALL! STOP THEM RIGHT NOW, FOR THE BLOOD-THIRSTY REICH MUST BE FOUGHT ON THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS -THEN- MAYBE THEY’LL STOP DEPORTING AND KILLING PEOPLE!”
I’ve never understood the cuck logic of a nation which has absolutely no trouble sending troops to DESTROY entire countries in the name of oi-- “freedom” (to eat at Mc Donalds after your contry’s been carpet bombed? Wtf?), but will absolutely not confront a threat that is existential to the entire fucking planet when it’s right in front of them.
And you have guns. You have guns and he’s still alive.
You must really love your little orange pedoführer.
I think the fundamental-problem is narcissism-culture.
The US is more narcissism-culture than the rest of us are, & that’s got consequences…
the propaganda in US “education” is … sickening, & I’ve only seen people describing it…
I was in the US shortly after 9/11, & … nationalism is their religion … straight-up religion.
All-saturating, they breathe it, nothing is tolerated to happen outside it, it’s … not fun.
Since then, I discovered that nationalism-religion is actually normal!
Blewmy mind…
I think that New Zealand & Canada partially escaped that, & that it’s probably the fact that Nature so defined our experiences that we just didn’t go as-far-down that road?
Ah, you assumed I’m US-citizen…
Sorry, no.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Democracy_Union it’s not even a conspiracy, it’s in the open.
No one here wants this. It’s an incredibly small minority of morons and nothing will ever come of it. It’s just a bunch of noise because our premier is a piece of dog shit. She will be gone come next election, if she lasts until then.
From your lips to God’s ears, gentle Albertan. I’m out in Ontario and get wildly different takes on how “serious” the Separatist movement is. Some people report is as you say, some say it’s “gaining traction”. Highly suspect sources go further, claiming the idea is popular. Even screening out Post Media, there are journalists reporting it as a “very real threat due to institutional support in the Premier’s office”.
No, there is no “gaining traction”. The only conversations being had are behind our backs within the provincial government and then that stupid fuck going down to the USA.
Thats what we thought back in 2015 when Trump first ran for president in the U.S… Now look at us.
Would there be a way for Minnesota to leave the US and join Canada?
“I’m joining the war against Canada on the side of Canada.”
Plenty of Americans would.
All y’all thought there was going to be a US Civil War, but it turns out the first shots are getting fired across the Alberta/Saskatchewan border.
I’d say California should hold a referendum to join Canada in response, but then I discovered California’s economy alone has 4.3 trillion GDP compared to all of Canada’s 2.6 trillion. Amazing that the average Canadian still has better access to healthcare 😅
I bet that if California had universal healthcare, the GDP would skyrocket. Healthy people are productive people. Ditto for doing free education, genuine anti-corruption, and…(goes on)
What? If the country looks after the population, the population will look after the country? That would never work! You know, except for the various countries where it provably does work…
California is THE fourth largest economy in the world with the first being the USA as a whole.
What place is USA without California?
And without the entire west coast (assuming without Alaska), because the three states basically move as one.
Still number 1.
California, Oregon, and Washington GDP all together is about $5.1 trillion, and US overall is 10 trillion ahead of China.
Still number 1
This is based on the World Bank 2024 numbers, US had $28.7 trillion, China 18.7, and California 4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
As a German I would prefer California in the EU. I’d be ok to send EU money to Denmark, so they can buy California.
Image West Coast Weather AND hygge in one single state.
Installing violent juntas in South America is so 20th Century. Now we’re installing violent juntas in North America.
We’re still doing it in the global South, East, and Middle East.
What do you want us to do, not install violent juntas?
Why the fuck does this administration think they can just buy countries?? Like where tf is all this coming from?
Because not a single world leader is stepping up to do anything about it. Although they don’t intend to buy anything, that’s the excuse to the pretense to war. “We tried to acquire them peacefully but there was no reasoning with them. Acquiring Canada was for national security”
If the Canadian government or EU actually cared, the Canadian border would look like the Korean DMZ. But instead the UK sends one troop to Greenland.
An asshole who was taught his whole life that he can buy whatever he wants and do whatever he wants without consequence was shat into office.
It’s just a continuation
and thus far, the world is still yet to prove otherwise
What a fucking menace. Do they honestly think they can smash and grab an entire country? They are making themselfes the common, lifelong enemy of many, many groups of people.
Yes, they (MAGA) do think they can do that. Their sense of entitlement and lack of empathy are boundless. The U.S. is going rogue, we are in the run up to WWIII, and I am not being hyperbolic. The rest (non-MAGA) aren’t paying attention, can’t see what they don’t want to believe, or, like me, are horrified, terrified, and making plans to get out of dodge before the shit hits the fan.
On the positive side, the U.S. is strongly teeing up financial collapse, which will likely hit towards the end of this year (maybe mid to late October?) Look at what gold is doing. It’s the biggest gold bull market of all time, already eclipsing the 1981 peak that came from the stagflation era following Nixon’s removal of the gold standard, and that’s even adjusted for inflation. The U.S. is running a ~6% budget deficit, consumer confidence is crashing, a leading indicator of a recession, ~1/3 of the U.S.’ $38 trillion in debt comes due and will have to be rolled over in a higher interest rate environment and at a time where the world is divesting of U.S. debt, and Trump gets to appoint a lackey as Chair of the Fed in May. You can 100% bet on the fact that the Fed is going to have to buy treasuries (i.e., print money) to cover the debt, which will devalue the currency boost inflation, and destroy the dollar. The Fed will also juice rates. We’ll have a boom in stocks with a blow-off top that will make the 1929 crash look quaint. There will be massive business failures, bank runs, and complete chaos, with a good chance of civil war (we’re already in a “cold” civil war, somewhat analogous to The Troubles.) Accordingly, I don’t see the conquest of Canada as likely before the situation collapses in on itself. However, if MAGA emerges from the chaos with its grip on power intact, god help us all (and I’m an atheist.)
It is too early to separate MAGA from USA. That will happen when MAGA is defeated and banned.
I draw a parallel between Nazis and Germany and MAGA and the USA. For the world, Germany was Nazi, just as for the rest of us, the USA is MAGA now. The USA is harming the world and when it stops (when MAGA is just another dark page in US history), we (the rest of the world) will stop equating MAGA and the USA.
Unfortunately, the US military is too strong and no one can bomb the USA, that will never happen. Therefore, the people of the USA must defeat MAGA. They brought it to power, they will have to defeat it and never let it arise again.
If this does not happen for some time, the USA eventualy will cease to exist as a superpower but at the cost of millions of victims.
We’ve done it before (violating sovereignty). Kind of a lot. Oh man…I hate this list. Looking at it all (AI generated) at once is a big oof. Several are joint operations.
Year(s) – Aggressor – Victim – Colloquial name / shorthand
- 1846–1848 – United States – Mexico – Mexican–American War
- 1893 / 1898 – United States – Kingdom of Hawaii – Overthrow & Annexation of Hawaii
- 1899–1902 – United States – Philippines – Philippine–American War
- 1903 – United States – Colombia / Panama – Panama Secession (Canal Coup)
- 1912–1933 – United States – Nicaragua – U.S. Occupation of Nicaragua
- 1915–1934 – United States – Haiti – U.S. Occupation of Haiti
- 1916–1924 – United States – Dominican Republic – U.S. Occupation of DR
- 1953 – United States (CIA) – Iran – Operation Ajax
- 1954 – United States (CIA) – Guatemala – Guatemalan Coup
- 1958 – United States – Lebanon – Lebanon Crisis
- 1960–1965 – United States (CIA) – Congo – Lumumba Assassination / Congo Crisis
- 1961 – United States – Cuba – Bay of Pigs Invasion
- 1964 – United States – Brazil – Brazilian Military Coup
- 1965 – United States – Dominican Republic – Operation Power Pack
- 1969–1973 – United States – Cambodia – Secret Bombing of Cambodia
- 1960s–1970s – United States – Laos – Secret War in Laos
- 1970–1973 – United States (CIA) – Chile – Chilean Coup
- 1976 – United States – Argentina – Dirty War / Junta Support
- 1979–1989 – United States – Afghanistan – Operation Cyclone
- 1980s – United States – Nicaragua – Contra War
- 1983 – United States – Grenada – Invasion of Grenada
- 1989 – United States – Panama – Operation Just Cause
- 2001–2021 – United States – Afghanistan – War in Afghanistan
- 2003 – United States – Iraq – Iraq War
- 2011 – United States / NATO – Libya – Libyan Intervention
- 2011–present – United States – Syria – Syrian Civil War (U.S. Intervention)
Where is Honduras?
West of the Caribbean, between Guatemala and Nicaragua. But that’s not important right now.
I heckin’ HATE the Alberta Prosperity Project! If we ever went “independent” we’d get Venezuela’d immediately!
Alberta wouldn’t ever be “independent.” At best they would basically get annexed by the US, same way Russia took Crimea, claiming that the presence of separatists justified their actions.
That’s the STRATEGY.
Thank you for making it explicit.
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Thank you for making me see that it is a strategy!
I feel like it’s a safe assumption more Americans in border states want to join Canada than the other way around.
I think even Cali would told it came to a vote and they’d already gained terrority adjacent to Cali thru the Pacific Northwest
That would be a true death low to the American Empire, without Cali we’d be fucked.
It would never happen, but it’d be worth Canada to hype it up just because if trump has to play defense, he just stops playing the game and starts a new one. That’s whY the whole TACO thing is, but because someone on social media made up a buzzword, no one really understands what’s happening
Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Now extrapolate Trump’s curve, from the 1980’s, when The Kremlin Papers indicate Putin was investing in him, until now, & keep the acceleration in that curve.
“Majority opinion” or whatever it is that you’re believing rules, now, ISN’T what rules:
He’s on-track to break the US Constitution’s significance within months or weeks, probably by the Insurrection Act.
ICE’s purpose isn’t even obvious, yet: once he “de-naturalizes” all who won’t vow allegiance to him, directly ( as he apparently already does for senior beaurocrats in multiple federal agencies ), suddenly are “illegals”, & that means 100’s of millions of “illegals”, & then the reason he insists they have TOTAL immunity will become blatent.
Deathmatch, between his authority vs the disintegrated, not-organized, “woke”, & if everybody is destroyed, so long as nobody-else won, then he wins.
Negative-Sum game ( competitive-nihilism ) combined with Zero-Sum game ( competitive-narcissism ).
IF a country WON’T prevent DarkTriad from gaining authority, THEN that country will be ruled, & probably destroyed, by DarkTriad’s ruling it.
Karma, aka “sow->reap law”.
We WOULDN’T prevent DarkTriad from ruling our countries, .: we’re about to be getting fatal consequences.
The rules are fundamentally changing beneath us, right now, & shortly the tippingpoint gets crossed, then Civil War Part2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
begins all-out.
Canada, too, gets torn up, by the prejudice-enforcers in Alberta & Quebec ( & the Anglo-supremacists who bully Quebecois validity, & the rest of the factional-supremacists: ALL sides have them, including Indigenous people, Whites, India, Chinese, ALL kinds of saboteurs of Canada’s viability… it’s natural, given how little we invested in establishing common-experience, like what Katimavik used to do )
Prep, if you want to live long in the next stage of our world: it’ll be violent, once the right-wing has shed rule-of-law for rule-of-authority, completely.
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Trump dictates that other countries comply & submit to his bullying, ELSE US’s tarriffs will bludgeon their economies until they obey.
Which is why the EU is currently making trade agreements with just about everyone on the planet. The USA handing out tariffs like candy is a lot less relevant when you can pivot your trade elsewhere on fairly short order.
Such an agreement with Canada has been in the works for the last ten years. All that’s currently missing is for it to be ratified by all involved countries, which might go a bit quicker now given how the States are behaving.
The fucking Russians are mixing with those morons too. Send the far-right Canadians fuck ups for a 6 month stay in the Oklahoma and Mississippi Oblasts. That should clear their fucked up ideas.
I guarantee Israel and the Zionist tech bros are involved
