• kreskin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    5 days ago

    The percentage of eligible voters that actually vote in the U.S. is pathetic.

    65.3% of voters voted in 2024. Thats higher than the UK or Ireland, and its not even a national holiday to do it. Its close to par with Canada.

    So I call BS on your post.

    • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 days ago

      And it’s pathetic in those places too. But when it’s a choice of trump or a less insane option, that 35% of Americans who didn’t bother to vote is a whole lot of idiots who are part of the problem.

        • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          4 days ago

          They ran what they ran. I honestly don’t know if they’d had a further left platform if they’d have lost more centrists than gained leftist votes in the places that mattered. But they were still obviously the far better choice, so I still hold any American who didn’t vote for them responsible for trump and his actions.

          • kreskin@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            edit-2
            3 days ago

            They ran what they ran.

            OK? and people voted how they voted. If you’re not going to tie campaigns to outcomes then you arent talking about reality, just your own feelings.

            • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              3 days ago

              My point is, even if the Dems ran a crappy election, they were a much better choice than Trump. And anyone who doesn’t see that is a fool. I don’t see why Americans need to be coddled to get up off their asses and vote for the better choice. Just don’t be idiots, already. Or else you are responsible for not stopping trump.

              • kreskin@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                3 days ago

                right, you dont care what the dems stand for as long as they are .001% better than genocidal fascism. And you’re not willing to lift a finger to demand better of the dems who are the only party we have a snowballs chance in hell of fixing. You’ll take whatever you’re given, like a dog eating scraps off the floor.

                On that, we agree.

                • CannonFodder@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  Hardly. You should work in the primaries, letter writing, grass roots etc. do that now. But when it comes to the election, if you don’t vote effectively against maga, you are supporting them, and the result is your fault.
                  It’s really quite simple. I’m not sure how it’s not obvious to everyone.
                  I guess if you really think trump is only .001% worse, then you are blinded by irrationalities?

                  • kreskin@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    2 days ago

                    letter writing, grass roots etc

                    ah yes. “sternly worded” letters are whats needed, obviously. Who could possibly argue with such a powerful vision. You win this one CannonFodder.