• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    They ran what they ran. I honestly don’t know if they’d had a further left platform if they’d have lost more centrists than gained leftist votes in the places that mattered. But they were still obviously the far better choice, so I still hold any American who didn’t vote for them responsible for trump and his actions.

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      3 days ago

      They ran what they ran.

      OK? and people voted how they voted. If you’re not going to tie campaigns to outcomes then you arent talking about reality, just your own feelings.

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        3 days ago

        My point is, even if the Dems ran a crappy election, they were a much better choice than Trump. And anyone who doesn’t see that is a fool. I don’t see why Americans need to be coddled to get up off their asses and vote for the better choice. Just don’t be idiots, already. Or else you are responsible for not stopping trump.

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          2 days ago

          right, you dont care what the dems stand for as long as they are .001% better than genocidal fascism. And you’re not willing to lift a finger to demand better of the dems who are the only party we have a snowballs chance in hell of fixing. You’ll take whatever you’re given, like a dog eating scraps off the floor.

          On that, we agree.

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            2 days ago

            Hardly. You should work in the primaries, letter writing, grass roots etc. do that now. But when it comes to the election, if you don’t vote effectively against maga, you are supporting them, and the result is your fault.
            It’s really quite simple. I’m not sure how it’s not obvious to everyone.
            I guess if you really think trump is only .001% worse, then you are blinded by irrationalities?

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              2 days ago

              letter writing, grass roots etc

              ah yes. “sternly worded” letters are whats needed, obviously. Who could possibly argue with such a powerful vision. You win this one CannonFodder.