OP said they didn’t want to support billionaires and data centers

The money used to make zdr requests on openrouter to good models like GLM 5.3 flows into large inference providers like fireworks and baseten

Yes, copy pasting is a terrible way to vibe code. But my point is it’s still going to be better than trying to ollama with a 1060 and 16 GB RAM

The size and token rates mentioned in this thread for local inference are all going to be exceptionally limited compared to the frontier

Forget about local inference with your hardware, it’s too far behind. 3 years behind in this technology is basically stone age

What you’re looking for is “ZDR” (zero data retention) policies from online providers. There are many options. One powerful model with ZDR you can use is gpt-6 Luna on duck.ai

Even if you’re trying to code, you’ll get better mileage copy pasting to and from duck than ollama with your hardware

Interestingly i could never invest the time into nextcloud but I can advocate for trying open models in CLI form for anyone looking for good agentic options

I’m using pi + tensorx + glm 5.2 with some pretty good results. EU hosted and competitive prices

Thank you for your considered and articulate comment

What do you think about the significant difference in attitude between comments here and in (quite serious) programming communities like https://lobste.rs/s/bxixuu/cheat_sheet_for_why_using_chatgpt_is_not

Are we in different echo chambers? Is chatgpt a uniquely powerful tool for programmers? Is social media a fundamentally Luddite mechanism?