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  • For example, are you trying to convey a change in perspective or an active and external change. Your initial phrase “fix the devil” sounded active, making me think of enduring through slow, difficult work to achieve a big result. The second phrase, turning hell to heaven, to me sounded more like turning hell to heaven in your mind, i.e. if you spend enough time immersed in it, you will stop hating something and start liking it. This could be positive, e.g. building tolerance, perhaps to a new food, embracing opposing viewpoints, learning to not only put up with but appreciate a ‘devil’ you work/live with as their own person instead of just thinking of how they annoy you. It could also be negative, e.g. Stockholm Syndrome as thought of by another comment on this post (the one criticising the phrasing of “fix” with association to toxic relationships, albeit that was referring to the original phrase, not the hell to heaven one) or becoming indifferent / blind / nihlistic / cynical about the problems of your society and choosing to ignore them to instead live in a false, rose-tinted heaven.

    from your comments and clarifications, and what little I know of Jung’s original phrase, I think you intended l to be inspiring / encouraging, so I imagine you’re trying to either convey some message along the lines of:

    • the bad times will end given enough time
    • you can accomplish great things if you endure suffering for long enough
    • there’s joy to be found even in places you initially find only despair

    Unlike the other comment, I don’t think you should be overly concerned with the exact words that you use, as most phrases like this are at least partly idiomatic, i.e. they’re not meant to be self-explanatory, you’re meant to tell people what they mean when you teach then the phrase. This also means you shouldn’t feel too bad about bad english, as lots of english phrases don’t make sense out of context.

    I think your original phrase is really good, as well as the alternative that you made. I’m not writing this to try to pressure you to make it “better” because it’s already perfect as is, I just don’t fully understand it as is and would like to hear more about what it means to you :)