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  • I love dbzer0! What particulars did you find weird? I strongly relate with your ‘nothing disagreeable and like-minded fit’ take.

    I completely forgot Mlem but it’s been on the backlogs for a min. Sad to hear your FF struggles. I did have some extension struggles with lemmy so I fully concur your frustrations.

    I greatly admire the disengage policy and see it as an authentic tool of liberation and community harmony. I can only applaud seeing it’s influence grow and branch out. I fully respect your original implementation of the policy as well. May I inquire what lead you to your adherence to it? Have you simply always had something similar and has it changed much since your initial conviction toward it?









  • I think on the whole, we actually agree on the mechanics of what needs to happen: slash the destructive waste and build the green infrastructure. Functionally, eliminating massive sectors is degrowth. You call it “advancement” because of the new tech. I call it “degrowth” because the total material footprint has to physically shrink to make room for it.

    Going all the way back to your original confusion, I hope I’ve at least cleared up what I meant by “moderately conservative communist” -> essentially someone whose primary focus is conserving the physical commons against the destructive march of both capital and unchecked productivism. Given that we’ve mapped out where our versions of communism diverge, do you think lemmy.ml is still a good home base for a degrowth communist like me, or is there another instance where this flavor of socialism fits better?


  • It is not as simple as you make it sound, because you are treating advanced technology like it exists in a vacuum instead of recognizing the physical cost of building it.

    You call degrowth a trap, but ignoring physical limits is the real trap. Degrowth doesn’t mean abandoning rail for inefficient small-scale production. It means intentionally shrinking the total material throughput of the economy. We can advance rail while drastically degrowing destructive sectors like aviation, the military, and industrial meat.

    The problem is that building your advanced green infrastructure still requires massive mining for copper, concrete, and rare earth metals. Those mines destroy real ecosystems whether a socialist planner orders them or a capitalist does. Efficiency per person does not change the absolute physical footprint of extracting resources for 8 billion people. If your environmentalist socialism refuses to shrink our total material consumption, it will just plan its way into the same ecological collapse.

    I think if it must be put simply, your communism is just vastly more optimistic than mine.


  • You say the need motive does not have an endless feedback loop, but I think you are really ignoring how need scales with technological advancement. When socialism develops new medical treatments and/or better housing those immediately become new basic rights. The standard of living constantly rises which requires constant material input. Advancing society expands the definition of what people need to live a dignified life.

    Even if we accept that the need motive lacks the artificial acceleration of the profit motive, you still have to face the baseline. Providing a modern, dignified standard of living for 8 billion people with housing, healthcare, and green energy already requires an ecological footprint that exceeds the Earth’s capacity.

    We do not need an endless feedback loop to hit ecological collapse. The starting line is already unsustainable. Stopping the profit loop just means we crash into the wall at a steady speed instead of accelerating. To actually live within planetary boundaries, we have to intentionally shrink the material baseline of our consumption. That is degrowth. You cannot simply assume that meeting human needs will automatically align with the Earth’s carrying capacity, because right now, they do not.