Iran is stealing money from third parties, if Iran is going to toll all ships. There is no moral argument for Iran’s actions here. “US was mean to me” is not an excuse for Iran to be mean to other people.

when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day

So you think that the terrorist mullahs Iran are just the nicest of people, who don’t care about the $billions of revenue from strait tolls, but just want Trump gone to help the world?

You don’t need to eat food which needs fertilizer? Or you don’t care if your food costs more, because the fertilizer transit had to pay Iran a toll?

And even if you don’t personally care about yourself, you don’t care about the poor indian worker, who pay a significant part of his income for food?

I am guessing he can’t throw Vance under the bus for it since he’s probably on record for saying it was a bad idea. Miller or Hegseth maybe?

As far as I can tell, Trump’s mental decline is so advanced that he can no longer create coherent lies. Some of the messaging around the Iran was has been mindbogglingly and transparently stupid.

So I don’t think Trump will be limited by small details like blaming someone who is “on record for saying it was a bad idea”.

The problem is that Trump’s supporters are literally a cult. The GOP are the ones with the power to unseat Trump, and the GOP know that their voters will tear them apart if they unseat Trump. Hence this continuing clown show of least resistence by the GOP.

An alternative is Trump stepping down voluntarily. But in best narcissist style, Trump believes he is the best man for the job, any job. “Only I can fix it”. And the pathological lack of self insight only gets worse as Trump mentally declines.

The Narcissist’s Prayer:

That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal. <-- We are here
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

What does that even mean? The world economy, you and me and other innocent people, wants and needs the strait to be open.

makes my brain start to believe in 5D chess.

It is really not that deep. Trump is a “mad emperor” in an autocratic system. All his ministers know that Trump is literally demented, but they all know that they will pay if they are the first to speak up against Trump. There has been examples of this throughout history.

So it is exactly as stupid as it seems. I like the term “100 ELO chess”. Here is Google’s description of 100 ELO chess:

100 Elo chess represents the absolute beginner level on platforms like Chess.com, often characterized by frequent, accidental hanging of pieces (leaving them undefended), missing basic one-move checkmates, and limited opening knowledge.

To say that a Greater Israel plan that includes… Iran… is in any sense real is batshit insane. Some Protocols of the Elders of Zion propaganda.

Exactly. 90% of Iran’s oil leave by sea, via Kharg island.

If Iran turns to piracy by threatening “pay or we sink your ships” at all other nations, then all other nations should just confiscate all Iran’s ships in return.

Oil revenues are 35% of Iran’s budget. This should not be a can of worms that Iran wants to open.

So both the US and Iran are breaking international law against each other.

But Iran is also breaking the right given by international law against neutral nations in this conflict. By restricting their right to shipping. Those nations have every moral and legal right to complain about Iran.

If they ever manage to conquer it

Why do you think that Israel has any desire to conquer Iran? The idea is laughably unfeasible. Israel may be evil, but they are not that stupid.

I think you may be a bit high on propaganda.

Republicans are way ahead of you:

How Ronald Reagan’s wife Nancy let her astrologer control the presidency

Cluster bombs hitting civilians is good news to you, I guess?

One common fertilizer is literally shit. So I guess I did worry more about the Iranians hitting literal shit, than the Iranians hitting US Marines… /s

So fuck the US, but this is not good. This can create a huge economic crisis and food instability, which would create untold suffering among innocent poor people across the world.

You are allowed to rightfully criticize the US for this war, without applauding Iran sinking ships with fertilizer the world desperately needs to not starve.

How about neither?

European cities have grocery stores within walking distance. I walk to mine, no problem.

Yes - but you can choose any point to stand on. So all arbitrary separations in to “East” and “West” are equally valid.

You know that Hamas entered Israel and took lots of innocent civilian hostages, right? Which Israel enetered Gaza to get back. Hence, Israel had an extremely good reason to enter Gaza.