cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/42741188

James Walker, a professor emeritus of obstetrics and gynaecology at the University of Leeds, said the research had helped to “cut through the noise” regarding recent concerns regarding whether medications taken by mothers during pregnancy could affect their babies.

“The practical message is straightforward” Walker said. “Women with moderate or severe depression should not stop their antidepressants in pregnancy out of fear of causing autism or ADHD. Depression that goes untreated in pregnancy carries real risks of its own, for the mother, the pregnancy and for the developing baby, including a higher chance of premature birth, postnatal depression and difficulties bonding with the baby. For milder depression, talking therapies and other non-medication approaches are usually tried first, in line with current guidelines. As always, decisions in pregnancy are personal and should be made with a clinician who knows the woman’s history.”

  • velma@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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    And those options should be weighed between a woman and her doctor, not some rando on the internet who feels like they’re more authorized to speak on this than actual medical providers.

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      Did i wrote anywhere that i should be weighting the decision itself? wtf are you on? Maybe take some online course on lecture comprehension.

      You are here just trying to invalidate my opinion to include important factors within the frame of the decision making process, because you personally disagree with that.

      And trying to give weight to your invalidation with a strawman.

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        Your opinion holds no weight between a pregnant woman and her doctor. Your opinion that women shouldn’t take any medications and suffer throughout their pregnancy, science be damned, is harmful.

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          You really have 0 lecture comprehension and are basically arguing against something you made up my dude.

          My opinion is my opinion, and its the problem of whomever reads it to take it into account or not.

          As I personally do not take your opinion for nothing of importance in this regard, as you’re toxic and basically delusional at this point if not just malicious in trying to reframe what I said.

          Have a nice day, and please, don’t forget to take your antidepressants.

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            Casually pushing that pregnant women should avoid antidepressents regardless of what their doctors advise isn’t about lecture comprehension or debates.

            It’s a dangerous statement that you’ve pushed here and it is literally just your uneducated opinion.

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              “Pushing”??? Again, go read again the comment, dont discuss with your personal projections.

              It’s a dangerous statement that you’ve pushed here and it is literally just your uneducated opinion.

              You are now assuming my education and what I used to give my opinion?

              Can I ask you whats your degree field? Or if you have one to start with as to put on yourself the selfentitlement to have the right to judge my opinion?

              Because you’re here feverishly fighting against my statements about psychoactive compounds chronically saturating the mother’s bloodstream affecting the development of the child thats connected to that bloodstream for 9 months; and that this should be taken into account by the mother to inform herself of the potential repercussions of blindly taking said compounds.

              Your opinion is dangerous in itself, not to mention that pretending to take away the right people have to take informed decisions, based on your personal belief (and maybe experience, sadly). Who are you to take on yourself the right of what people have to know or not?

              I’m honestly really heavily doubting about not only your qualifications and background education here; since you’re trying to invalidate basic biochemical processes caused by strong hormonal modulators that are proven to affect even already formed and developed brains; let alone the fetus neural tissue.

              Please have some reading here:

              • 25% to 30% of infants exposed to SSRI/SNRI in late pregnancy experience transient symptoms such as jitteriness, restlessness, rapid breathing, and altered muscle tone. https://fn.bmj.com/content/109/3/294

              • In utero SSRI exposure, interacting with the maternal mood, is associated with distinct epigenetic alterations. Specifically, neonates show increased DNA methylation, an epigenetic signature that has also been linked to alterations in birth weight. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4622680/

              • Alterations to the Fetal HPA Axis and Cortisol Levels: Infants prenatally exposed to SSRIs exhibit altered early programming of the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) stress axis. This is demonstrated by significantly reduced early evening basal cortisol levels measured at three months of age when compared to unexposed infants. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4821181/

              • Prenatal SSRI exposure is associated with an early gray matter volume expansion in the amygdala and insula, as well as increased structural connectivity between these regions. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10469300/

              • Even after strictly adjusting for confounding variables, prenatal exposure to antidepressants is associated with decreases in gestational age and birth weight , alongside a modestly increased risk for moderate-to-late preterm birth. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9117424/

              You know that there are hundreds of neurological problems outside of ADHD and Autism don’t you? And if not, please inform yourself before pushing people to decide what to take or not based on what you believe is important, because its probably the popular thing you’re paying attention to.

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                Your opinion is dangerous in itself, not to mention that pretending to take away the right people have to take informed decisions, based on your personal belief (and maybe experience, sadly). Who are you to take on yourself the right of what people have to know or not?

                The only fucking opinion I’ve expressed here is that a pregnant woman should consult her doctor and listen to her doctor over random people’s opinions on the internet.

                Why that’s so controversial to you, who the fuck knows. I suspect that you had your ego bruised when your comment was removed and you have a woman pushing back on you.

                Pregnant women should listen to their doctors

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                  Its controversial to you. Since if you had read my comments you would be aware that I never stated the contrary.

                  But you’re some random triggered toxic lemmy user with zero lecture comprehension, just arguing with imaginary statements and little context knowledge it seems.

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                    I still wouldn’t recommend taking them. Antidepressants saturate the blood flow chronically, and having random neuroactive compounds going to the fetus thorough their whole development can’t be good. Maybe not autism or ADHD but something else for sure.

                    Yes you fucking did.

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                Your original and unhelpful comment that pregnant women should not take antidepressents even when their doctor prescribes them was removed by a moderator already.

                Everything in pregnancy is lower risk vs higher risk, not no risk vs risk. Each pregnancy is different on top of that.

                Pregnant women shouldn’t listen to your opinion. They should listen to their doctors.

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                  I did not wrote that they shouldnt take antidepressants. I wrote that their effects should be taken into account and researched before taking them.

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                    I still wouldn’t recommend taking them. Antidepressants saturate the blood flow chronically, and having random neuroactive compounds going to the fetus thorough their whole development can’t be good. Maybe not autism or ADHD but something else for sure.

                    Here’s your parent comment where you literally recommend NOT taking antidepressants even when doctors prescribe them to pregnant women.