• Vegafjord oakframer@lemmy.mlOP
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    19 days ago

    Your idea is a pie in the sky that will never be achieved.

    I’m sorry, I didn’t see the sign about “dreaming not allowed”.

    Ofcourse it is possible to live without cars. Most of human history people has been fine without cars. It’s just the past hundrer years it has been normalized by the machine through advertisements and capitalism.

    Car infrastructures require over-production, so if we want cars, then we have to accept that we can’t live with nature. Seems like you chose the game over screen.

    The supposed reason we need cars is to drive to work, go to grocery stores, visit friends from far away. But there is nothing saying that life has to be this way, we don’t need to reach the world. It should be sufficient to live slowly and in our local communities.

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      19 days ago

      I’m sorry, I didn’t see the sign about “dreaming not allowed”.

      I’m not saying you can’t dream, i’m just saying that if your dream are so far fetched and then you act on it in a very toxic way, then your behaviour and dream deserve some criticism.

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          19 days ago

          It’s toxic to oppose cars in a suicidially car brained and car dependent society. What about this 10yo child and other children? Don’t they deserve EVs?

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          19 days ago

          You don’t accept any deviation and only accept perfection, and then you post about being downvoted, that gives off the air of being toxic about it.

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            19 days ago

            If we want to forward our dreams, we have to be assertive. Otherwise dreams will only be imposed upon us from might.

            I dont expect perfection. We live under a machine where we are forced to use cars whether we like it or not. We cant expect the individual to move away from the car because the machine forces it upon us. Its a planned economy ruled in the name of profit, and they construct society to require cars. We should however expect people to dream.

            I can agree that posting about being downvoted gives of negative vibes. But I dont think that is enough to call it toxicity. If I am approaching the conversation in a destructive manner, then I can agree with you.