• Freeposity@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    She wrote that 2038 is only 12 years away, and that “YOU and your classmates will be responsible for paying down the national debt.”

    Nevermind that Trump and the rest of the congressional Republicans increased the national debt by 3 trillion dollars already, fuck you kid for wanting something good for everyone instead of only wanting good stuff for the Epstein class.

    • Soulphite@reddthat.com
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      2 days ago

      Fun fact:

      (Add 2 trillion to this pie… wait 3 trillion? No wait… almost 4, Now? Well, add 4 trillion to this chart for the ole pedophile just for good measure…)

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        19 hours ago

        Look, this isn’t my country but I’d think there’d be rioting in the streets about this. Someone’s out there spending the public’s money and making his whims everyone else’s problem.

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        “10 year projection as of 2025”

        Huh? I doubt he will survive that long, let alone run for the fourth term

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          2 days ago

          The party of ‘law and order’ and his super smart and loyal supporters will definitely support and vote for him the fourth time as well because they support ‘law and order’.

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        8 hours ago

        This is dumb as bricks. Inflation means that the most recent government will always have an outsized contribution to any national debt.

        Don’t post it just because it dumps on Trump

        (And I guess I have to say I too hate trump because otherwise everyone will conclude I’m defending him somehow)

        EDIT because apparently that caveat is not enough: try running the same calculation as if it were 2016 and you were comparing Obama’s contribution to the national debt to all other presidents. Or Bush. Or Clinton.

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              15 hours ago

              Here, I’ll invite you to read this document published on house.gov specifically on trumps impact to the national debt throughout America’s history. It is not a “slam piece” on it’s own, he does it to himself with facts and figures which is what this article gives.

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                15 hours ago

                I searched for “inflation”, “nominal” and “adjusted” and didn’t find anything relevant.

                I believe that the $37 trillion dollars is the total debt whenever that graphic was made, and the $12.5T is the debt increase from Trump’s first term, plus so far in his second term. That means you’re comparing Trump’s debt (issued in 2016 or later dollars) to, for example, Roosevelt’s debt (issued in 1940s dollars).

                The article you link seems perfectly factual and correctly identifies that debt to GDP is more important than nominal debt. Which is why you shouldn’t be using a comparison of nominal debt increases to criticise Trump.

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                  15 hours ago

                  It’s relative to the economy. The comparison is the fact that he spends frivolously when other presidents who contributed largely to the debt did so during crises. Trump CREATES crises all on his own. He campaigns on lowering debt, but does quite the opposite ten fold. So yeah, it is perfectly within the realm to criticize and compare him with all other presidents all things considering. The pie represents his failures in the simplistic of forms.

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                    13 hours ago

                    What measure of “the economy”? The usual measure is GDP, measured in dollars, so the number is a dimensionless ratio, not a dollar amount.

                    The fact that you aren’t telling me how this number was arrived at, or giving any precise answers at all, is answer enough: it’s not “adjusted” to anything. You made that up and are continuing to talk shit.

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      20 hours ago

      How nvieve does she have to be to assume anyone is going to pay down the national debt. The US government will collapse with $200T of debt and implode the world economy.