• Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world
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          What did the roommate dispute in the Wikipedia page you linked? I don’t see anything significant there. The grouper link is related to the inscriptions on the bullet casings, “hey fascist, catch” Nick Fuentes commonly referred to Kirk as being a fascist. “Owo checks bulge” is another groyper term “Bella ciao” anti fascist anthem was used by groypers in their campaign against Kirk.

          This is the strongest evidence we currently have for his beliefs and motivations. On the balance of probability I think it’s safe to say he was a groyper type, unless you have any other evidence or explanation for this.

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            https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/notices-bulge-owo-whats-this

            So Owo checks bulge is mostly furry culture, I can’t find anything on Nick Fuentes using it other than a mountain of articles post shooting. If you have a source before that, I’m interested in reading it.

            The rest is either memes that aren’t really right wing related or stuff that is simply anti fascist. The Bella Chow songs seems to be only associated with Nick Fuentes because it appeared on a playlist with his name on it once?

            Idk, the whole thing stinks and seems really forced. The alt right doesn’t own helldivers and anti fascist songs and catches phrases. The whole thing seems silly the moment you start actually looking into it.

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              The owo checks bulge is related to groypers and an activity called “transvestigating”.

              The Bella ciao on the Fuentes playlist was related specifically to Charlie Kirk.

              It isn’t forced in the context of Fuentes repeatedly referring to Kirk as a fascist, I can’t think of any other context where all of this makes sense other than groyper culture where it all fits nicely.

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                Like I said, I can’t find any info about this at all pre shooting. Do you have any kind of source? Was this something you knew about before or just when the media starting telling everyone about it? The articles never have a source or anything other than hearsay.

                I’m glad Kirk died and all but the whole thing stinks.

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            When the roommate asked why Robinson had done it, he answered, “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.”

            This doesn’t really support the notion of him thinking Charlie wasn’t right wing enough. Especially not when paired with the mom’s statement of him becoming more pro-gay and pro-trans.

            edit: not really sure what groyper is, but you say yourself it’s anti-fascist, so how is that right-wing?

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              If you look at it from his worldview being right wing is not associated with hate, more hatred does not make you more rightwing.

              A groyper is a follower of Nick Fuentes, a far right political commentator.

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                Alright, I think I got the gist.

                So what’s the connection to the alleged shooter? Just the slogan on the bullets? That just sounds like some edgy teen shit, but I find it hard to believe that the alleged shooter shared many views with this Nick Fuentes guy.

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        hes with NICK fuentes, fuentes immediately tried to distance himself from kirk the moment the shooting happen.

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          You mean self avowed literal nazi Nick Fuentes spent years talking about how Kirk isnt right wing enough and he’s bought out by (insert right wing dogwistle for TeH jOoZ here) and one of his fans took the shot at him and he scramble to distance himself from that to avoid being held liable?