• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    I tried one just for shits a giggles awhile back to see if there is any merit to the widespread use of them. The only way you’d find these even remotely realistic or interesting is if you’ve never had any kind of sexual encounter with a real person before, whether in person or through text. After about five minutes of “chatting” with one of these bots it started to respond like half baked fan fiction that didn’t understand the basics of sex or even anatomy. The cadence is very predictable and it tends to repeat the same wording and phrasing constantly. If you have real world experience with people, it just feels like a generic chatbot.

    In my opinion, this is more proof that these people need to interact with real humans. If these chat bots seem at all human to you, you need to interact with more actual humans.

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      11 days ago

      I really don’t understand how anyone could want to chat with bots in general. Do people lack the ability to appreciate the genuine. It explains how you get people like trump. Who wants that kind of interaction?

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        11 days ago

        I find AI to be a better conversation partner than humans in most circumstances. It’s not perfect but it’s knowledgeable about pretty much every topic and it’s always fully engaged and attentive. Most people, by contrast, aren’t very interesting and most interesting people are busy. Of course I would prefer to talk to someone who was also subjectively experiencing and enjoying the conversation, but I can get a lot out of a conversation even without that.

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          11 days ago

          It does not understand what its saying. Its fine to summarize some searches or bring forth known best practices but I would not call what it does conversation.

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            11 days ago

            Kind of feels like semantics.

            Let’s say I give you a discord link and tell you that half the people are bots and half aren’t. Realistically, LLMs are at a level where you won’t be able to tell which is which.

            So what then. You are only having a conversation half the time but you can’t point out when that is? Feels a bit hollow.

            This probably happens on Lemmy. You probably have interactions that you qualify as conversations in your head but that are with bots.

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              back and forths sure. only some attain the level of a conversation. yeah bots exist but social media is not a subsitute for the real world. I would not call it semantics. its my experience talking/chatting with humans and with ai. My big thing with folk who want to get an idea of llm limits is to engage it with a topic you are very familiar with or can see the effects immediately like playing a video game. I have been using it with balders gate and its been. interesting.

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                10 days ago

                Ya I get what you mean, I’m just saying that to say there’s a difference, you would have to be able to see that difference in a blind test.

                I understand they have limits, but so do regular people. You don’t need to be an expert on a subject to hold a conversation about it.

                They aren’t intelligent and all that, and make the stupidest mistakes but they can more or less hold a convo just as well as the average rando on the internet.

                It’s definitely hollow but I get why people are getting caught up in it.

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      10 days ago

      It’s probably more directly related to the system of getting the help you need with having to sacrifice a significant portion of the money you make that needs to go elsewhere.

      And it’s a history of it from one generation to the next so there’s not good male role models in most people’s lives for mental health.

      It’s not like it’s some magic thing to go see a therapist and all your problems will be fixed. It can take a long time and a lot of trial and error to find someone you feel comfortable speaking to

      Yes toxic masculinity is a problem, but your comment doesnt really acknowledge the difficulty of breaking that cycle. Not a very helpful and kind of alienating to anyone who needs help and isn’t from a background that creates good outcomes.