Although the note’s authenticity has not been established, it contains an apparent reference to a line from a 1931 Little Rascals film that Epstein had used in at least two email messages, according to the trove of Epstein documents released by the U.S. Department of Justice this year in response to the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency Act.

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    No matter what the final conclusion is, this case has been surrounded by so many powerful people, contradictions, and years of public distrust that half the internet was never going to believe any official explanation anyway.

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      I don’t care about an explanation at this point. I just care about justice in a broad reaching sweep. This is one of those instances that the normal structures of the justice system is incapable of handling. And the consequences of leaving the perpetrators in power far far outweighs any collateral damages.

      I am willing to accept any collateral damage of “innocent” rich and powerful people named in the documents as having any relationship with Epstein. Ranging from a removal from any political position, wealth and property seized, life in prison, or a guillotine (depending on the evidence). But, a simple evidence of a relationship alone is enough that they should be purged from their positions of power in private enterprises or public institutions.

      This is a case in which we need to purge the rot from our society at a fundamental level. It is more important to me to purge pedophiles from our institutions of power and influence. If this results in the majority of the ruling class being purged, well, that’s a happy little side effect.

      Epstein should wake people up to the absolute failures of how our justice system and society at large functions and who it functions to protect. Hoping for the “smoking gun” evidence for prosecution is a distraction from this larger issue. Ironically, I see the Epstein files as nothing more than a distraction from this. The false belief that “if we just have all the files unredacted” that then justice can be served. It would not be, not even if we had all the evidence and names. Because the same systems that black out those names would still just work to protect them.

      The reason they black out the names is not just to protect those individuals. It is to protect the entire system and the illusion that it is capable of holding the ruling class accountable for its crimes.

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    I bet these idiots fed an AI all his emails to get make it sound more like him

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        the problem with that is Epstein did use em dashes in his emails, or at least double hyphens supposed to be em dashes

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          you know at this point it wouldn’t surprise me if LLMs were trained on his crap specifically. I mean apparently game microtransactions with like CoD were his idea, 4chans /pol/ was his idea, all the other crap that we now deal with were his ideas. ALL the bullshit we deal with today can pretty much be directly attributed to this ass clown.

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              None.

              ALL the bullshit we deal with today can pretty much be directly attributed to this ass clown.

              Is wishful, conspiratorial thinking designed to simplify a staggeringly complex and scary world into one where a great, singularizing evil has caused all of this.

              I’m probably going to have to keep bringing this up given Lemmy’s appalling tendency toward unsubstantiated “contradictory evidence is only evidence of how deep the conspiracy goes!!” thinking (see: this one, where evidence that it’s Epstein’s writing is actually evidence that they trained an LLM on Epstein’s writing, roping anti-AI into it too*), but Dan Olson’s video essay “In Search Of A Flat Earth” discusses this kind of simplifying thinking to a T when describing QAnon.

              There was a now-removed post earlier on /c/politics with like a 45:5 upvote ratio from some random dipshit’s Substack claiming (with zero real substance or qualifications) to analyze the note and conclude that it was written by Donald Trump himself. The average Lemmy user, like most people on social media, are intellectually lazy idiots.


              * Edit: I just want to point out that by 2019 standards, training and using an LLM to convincingly fake a suicide note from a specific person by compiling their previous correspondences and shoving them into an LSTM or a relatively new transformer model would be vastly more difficult (intellectually and effort-wise, and probably with worse results) than just fucking reading some of the previous correspondences and deliberately throwing in some writing quirks. That may not be what happened, but if you’re going to believe it wasn’t Epstein’s writing, don’t be a total fucking moron about it: at least believe something vaguely plausible.

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    Even if he killed himself he shouldn’t have been able to and there was likely a conspiracy to enable it.

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      Exactly, even if he killed himself, that doesn’t rule out the possibility that he was being pressured/forced to. Those powerful monsters he hung out with and surrounded himself with wouldn’t want a lose end like him sitting around.