Generally avoid posting idiotic things this guy says, but as most people know as offensive as this guy is he’s been sure not to offend anyone powerful and it seems like he’s finally picked a side. Hopefully this will the straw that break the camel back for the Conservatives.
The Conservative leader called for a ban on Chinese software, matching the US.
“We will protect the North American supply chains by keeping the 75% rule in place, harmonise the North American cybersecurity rules by banning Chinese software, and align with our partners on the tariff against China to counter unfair trade and increase our negotiating leverage,” he stated.
Classic Conservatives who work for the oil lobby. They’re not interested in giving people access to a wider range of models to improve affordability.
What a bunch of elitist politicians!
Is this what Canadian Conservatives call common sense? lol
Transportation needs to be electrified but if Chinese imports (and all other cars for that matter) don’t ship with fully open software they should never hit Canadian soil.
China IS an adversarial country, they have interfered in our elections and economy, their telecomms equipment ships with back doors, they wage war on their neighbours, commit domestic genocide and capture resources by holding massive debts over developing nations.
It is a guarantee that their electric cars will ship with the ability to manipulate economies. A car with evil firmware could cause congestion during important days, like during elections. It could increase infrastructure costs by doing synchronized throttling up and down of charging. It could be used to track the location of individuals by asking as a distributed wireless sniffer. It could be used to track the activity of the Canadian armed forces by looking at traffic patterns on and round bases.
These “features” would be essentially free to implement and would be extremely difficult to detect, until they are deployed, unless Chinese EVs, and all other cars going forward, ship with software that can be fully inspected and audited. The earlier that this becomes a demand the easier it will be to implement.
And if you don’t think this is an issue or even a possibility, millions of IoT devices have already become inadvertent bricks or had their performance degraded by companies going out of business or decided not to support “legacy” hardware. Doing it on purpose is trivial.
Transportation needs to be public transit. Electrifying doesn’t change much.
You have to take over zoning federally then, you need density for good transit.
There is a lot of prime land available where there’s currently massive roads and parking lots. A single interchange is the size of a city center.
Interesting.
I would say that China is more of a competitor than an enemy, however. This is evident in the openness it is showing to certain nations with whom it practically refused to engage until very recently.
We should apply the same reasoning to the United States, which is currently waging economic warfare against us. The United States is not our friend, and we should stop using their online services, for example.
100% There should be a lot more concern about device safety and software independence. If Adobe decided that Canada was not worth the taxes and paperwork they could cripple thousands of businesse overnight.
Look at how they kidnapped out citizens when we followed international law with Huawei. What if they decided they need to shut down our networking equipment, or create gridlock on our streets to prevent us from meeting whatever event happens in the future.
again, other countrys make EVs even outside of the west, hybrids also exist.
if you actually cared about the environment you’d know buying a whole new car just to get an EV is far more wasteful then just using a already used car, not to mention how much waste china produces with some of these failed items. you taking this stance when china is unwilling to open up their programing, something all other companys have to do, then the answer from me is a hard no.
Canadian Conservatives keep propping up PP, they can shut the fuck up about what they want.
How stupid can you be to say that one foreign country’s software is a privacy risk while the one threatening us with annexation’s software is all fine and good.
If Chinese software is a problem, all software is a problem, and needs to be regulated as such. I don’t give a fuck if it’s Ford or byd or VW or Subaru or Hyundai or Range Rover. NONE of them should be legally allowed to deploy tracking software.
Conservatives love capitalism, yet they really seem to hate the idea of a free market…
If they want North American EVs to thrive, maybe they should stop butt-chugging oil and sink money and investments into EV development so Canadian brand EVs can prosper.
…but nah, just try to blacklist all the competition.
I want a blanket privacy mandate across all vehicles, and if China falls afoul of that, then they can fuck off along with any other of these enshittified manufacturers across the world. This is the opportunity to make that happen.
We NEED cheap small EVs to go pick up our groceries and drop our kids off at school and go to the occasional dinner invitation at your relatives.
Right now all we have are huge expensive or luxury EVs. I want a fucking Honda Fit or Toyota Yaris or a Ford Focus type of car. And the only ones that have them ready to sell are the Chinese.
So let them in and allow us to dump ICE vehicles once and for all.
The Nissan Leaf and Kia Niro EV both exist. They aren’t quite Honda fit small, but they are compact ev hatchbacks that are nowhere near luxury. Under $50k brand new and do the job just fine.
I’ve put 140,000km on my Niro EV in the last four years, dragging my kids to sports and driving to work.
$45k+ still isn’t what I’d call affordable, especially when their closest ICE equivalents (Nissan Versa and Hyundai Kona) are about $20k cheaper new.
At least it looks like used EVs with triple digit ranges are starting to show up around $10k. The state of EV affordability is improving but there’s still a long way to go.
That’s because you are looking only at up front cost rather than total cost of ownership.
A gas car will cost more than $45k in gasoline over its life.
An EV in most parts of Canada will cost less than $10k over the same distance for electricity.
That $45k EVs is already significantly cheaper than an equivalent gas car. This has been true for a while now.
If you drive enough, it can even be cheaper per month while paying for the car. A $600 per month EV payment with $100 a month electrical cost is the same price as a $300 car payment with $400 in gas costs. Then the moment you pay the car off you’re saving $300 a month for the rest of its life.
If all you do is commute 10km a day, Yea don’t go buy a brand new EV, but you shouldn’t be buying a brand new gas car for that either.
The problem is that once you get into lifetime costs the variables go through the roof and any numbers you come up with are almost meaningless to anyone but yourself. (Not to mention needing to calculate increasingly volatile energy prices over decades) I tried to do a bit of basic math. I calculated with BC Hydro home rates at $0.12/kwh and fast charger rates at $0.40/kwh, and with gas at its (local) year low of $1.40/L as well as rounding up to $2/L. I also am taking my basic search for efficiency data at face value.
Cost/100km
Kia Niro EV ~17kwh/100km = $2.04 home $6.80 fast charger
Hyundai Kona ICE ~7.5L/100km combined = $10.50-$15Nissan Leaf ~18.9kwh/100km = $2.27 home $7.56 fast charger
Nissan Versa ~6.8L/100km = $9.52-$13.60There’s no doubt there are many people saving tons by driving an EV, just as I have no doubt many people will never break even (and if they’re ok with that I have no issues).
Let the man talk! Give him a megaphone if you have one.
(so he can drive more people away from the reformacons)
