Also Peter Thiel.

  • chillhelm@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    No. Democracy is definitionally “Vote what you want to vote for.”

    Ideally people vote for what they think is best for the country/the world/your peers.

    But part of democracy (and a rather important part) is that NOBODY GETS TO TELL ANYBODY WHAT TO VOTE FOR AND WHY (within the legal confines of what allowed political expression is). So yes. A lot of people vote for what they think will be best for them. And people often make fun of people that vote for things that will be bad for them (see the whole leopards eating faces meme culture).

    So “voting to benefit one self” can not be a crazy concept to you…

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        9 days ago

        Of course. But I’m obviously not talking about advertisement or debate. I’m talking about coercing votes or decisions. I figure that’s pretty obvious from context.

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      9 days ago

      Okay sure one part is you get to vote on who/which party you want, but that wasn’t what I was arguing about.

      1. vote is not to get what you want, it is to kick out the bad person, replace them.

      2. getting active in politics is what you do to actually change something.

      Both these are subdued or erased in dictatorships, but not in functional democracies.