• kalkulat@lemmy.world
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    In 1738 the Pope forbid all Catholics from joining a Masonic lodge (open to men of any religion, and secretive, no doubt to avoid Inquisition), and called them ‘depraved and perverted’ (unlike the Church, of course). No doubt the faithful kept the rumor-mills turning.

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    The Masons are secretive. Many very high level historic figures have been Masons. It’s a good old boys club to get in you need to be sponsored by another Mason. You don’t hear a lot about their accomplishments. And you would expect that a social group that contained many of the important men in history wouldn’t just be sitting around doing nothing in secret.

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      To my personal knowledge of them, just a bunch of businessmen who jerk each other off basically.

      If one freemason owns a business, and another finds out they do and they also have a business - there will be some sort of service from one company or the other so they can make each other money. Basically, they just support members and will give them preferential treatment over someone they don’t know.

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          My dad was in the masons in three different countries. Locally they sponsored a few college scholarships and nationally they are best known for their hospitals.

          Both parents were in a sister organization called the Order of the Eastern Star. None of the kids had any interest in either.

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      The Shriners are 33° (highest) Masons and they have free children’s hospitals. They once helped a family member from the time they were a toddler until grown, so whenever I see them fundraising, I pretty much empty my pockets, even if it’s just a few coins. St. Jude’s too.

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    Read up on their founding and history, they brought it upon themselves. They wanted to be the mysterious Boogeyman from their inception because the founders thought it would be cool and fun.

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        Ehh, Freemasons are probably not religious in the sense you think they are. They all believe in god but are not necessarily of the same religious background.

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          I had a buddy who was in it. The background checks they do are comparable to getting a security clearance, and he said you’d get tossed out if you weren’t religious.

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            Background check?! BACKGROUND CHECK?!

            My dad was a Freemason, and I went through the first initiation and was working on the second but decided I didn’t want to continue despite enjoying my teen years in DeMolay. There was no fucking background check. lol! Hell, to join you just need to ask a Freemason - they don’t really ask you.

            You have a Freemason who can vouch for your character as kind of a “sponsor” so maybe THAT is the background check but you don’t fill out any forms or anything that get submitted to the government.

            Also, they use God in their words but you don’t have to believe in God. I dunno, maybe Nevada lodges have different rules? I doubt it.

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        If I recall, Masons don’t require you to worship any specific God, just believe in a higher power or something like that.