i’m mostly talking about people in the west because we pollute way more than poor countries.
i don’t see how it’s hypocritical though, we are the ones that really should be making changes in our lives and, of course policy.
People in the west pollute a lot more, but not because they consume a lot more milk. The reason why they pollute much more is widespread consumerism. Reducing the amount of milk consumption is pretty much ininfluential. Of course, don’t buy milk just to throw it away.
If you want to do that, fine by me: I appreciate the effort. But don’t fool yourself not drinking milk is making any kind of difference; even if that was a practice which became widespread across your whole nation.
i’m very poor
I don’t know if you’re American. I had people in America telling me they were very poor because they had to rent a full house and couldn’t buy one and were forced to cook at home a couple times a week because they did not earn enough to go to restaurant every day. I come from Europe and I’m in no way poor, but while they described me their lifestyle I was thinking they lived the same way as a doctor would in my country.
And yes, that’s more or less what I’d consider middle class; on the lower end of it.
My life is not so different, except I have a full time job and can not afford to rent a full apartment on my own.
One advice I can give for clothes: get a sewing machine or lend one from a friend. I used to buy large 1€ shirts and pants from road markets and just fit them to my size, don’t know about Finland; around here you find quite nice clothes thrown besides trash bins.
I have friends I’d consider poor, even though to be fair around here it’s pretty difficult to find someone who is actually poor.
One of them has a campment set up in the woods 20 minutes from the city center. Clothes are readily available in the trash, food is plentiful even without money. He only needs money for wine and tobacco pretty much.
I do not mean to insult and I do not want to say that is an ideal situation. By all means I hope you can improve it.
I would not consider that as being poor due to how I interpret what poverty is: you still have money left after you cover for your life expenses.
You live on benefits, thus I imagine you have free time; that is quite a luxury.
You have an apartment where you live alone, where I live that’s quite uncommon even for people who held a decent job for decades.
Sure: those people are not below the poverty line, yet they can afford less than you do.
But I mean, we’re not here in a competition as to who is more wrecked, luckily this is a good life.
People in the west pollute a lot more, but not because they consume a lot more milk. The reason why they pollute much more is widespread consumerism. Reducing the amount of milk consumption is pretty much ininfluential. Of course, don’t buy milk just to throw it away.
If you want to do that, fine by me: I appreciate the effort. But don’t fool yourself not drinking milk is making any kind of difference; even if that was a practice which became widespread across your whole nation.
I don’t know if you’re American. I had people in America telling me they were very poor because they had to rent a full house and couldn’t buy one and were forced to cook at home a couple times a week because they did not earn enough to go to restaurant every day. I come from Europe and I’m in no way poor, but while they described me their lifestyle I was thinking they lived the same way as a doctor would in my country.
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Nice chat.
And yes, that’s more or less what I’d consider middle class; on the lower end of it.
My life is not so different, except I have a full time job and can not afford to rent a full apartment on my own.
One advice I can give for clothes: get a sewing machine or lend one from a friend. I used to buy large 1€ shirts and pants from road markets and just fit them to my size, don’t know about Finland; around here you find quite nice clothes thrown besides trash bins.
I have friends I’d consider poor, even though to be fair around here it’s pretty difficult to find someone who is actually poor.
One of them has a campment set up in the woods 20 minutes from the city center. Clothes are readily available in the trash, food is plentiful even without money. He only needs money for wine and tobacco pretty much.
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I do not mean to insult and I do not want to say that is an ideal situation. By all means I hope you can improve it.
I would not consider that as being poor due to how I interpret what poverty is: you still have money left after you cover for your life expenses.
You live on benefits, thus I imagine you have free time; that is quite a luxury. You have an apartment where you live alone, where I live that’s quite uncommon even for people who held a decent job for decades.
Sure: those people are not below the poverty line, yet they can afford less than you do.
But I mean, we’re not here in a competition as to who is more wrecked, luckily this is a good life.
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I’m sorry, that must be tough. I hope you can do better.